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  • savethegamesavethegame    3,067 posts
    edited September 12
    JayJay said:

    Did read once looking for another article PHILOCK   won a jackpot regarding x amount winners,

    Philock did win a jackpot at Ascot.
    Sure it was Trots Jackpot early 60s read it old Kalgoorlie Miner, will have to go looking, it mentioned his real name funny with those jackpots seen where they named them and address.as well.
    Know have mentioned on this site previously regards
    1958 Fremantle Cup,won by Imperial, knew the trainer had cracked his son in  birdcage for beating stable-mate Sultana.which was heavily  backed Favourite . what i didn't know until last week reading old Kalgoorlie miner his Father refused to attend
    tropy presentation. he was to wild Sultana had got beat

    Headline in Kalgoorlie Miner Stable wins Fremantle Cup but wrong horse wins. Goeson to say Bill Johnsonwas to upset to recieve trophy for winning cup he was hugepunter; flucs 9/4 into 6/4. Stable-mate was 40/1
  • JayJayJayJay    8,264 posts
    Son of Philock says it was Ascot.

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  • JayJayJayJay    8,264 posts
    The Richmond Raceway Jackpot

    Firstly a bit of context, The "Richmond Park" jackpot started in June 1957 (2 months prior to the Gloucester Park Jackpot) and it was prior to the TAB being established. SP bookmakers had just been "legitimized" by the licensing of individual off course betting shops (most SP bookies became legal over night) but there was no central pool and even though some of the individual licensees operated in a networked "you scratch my back, I'll scratch yours" type arrangement, there was certainly no centralised pool mechanism to operate a Jackpot statewide.

    The licensing of off course bookmakers saw a plunge in on course attendance and on course turnover. In an attempt to boost attendance, a ban was put in place on race broadcasts, a failure, and after a watering down to allow 6WF to broadcast the last 3 events, that was also abandoned in favour of a return to full broadcasts.

    In order to boost attendance and on course turnover, the idea of a Jackpot was thought up, you had to be on course to enter, it cost 5/- (shillings) per ticket and you had to pick the winners of the last 5 races. Selections had to be handwritten (in duplicate) by number and written word and both teh original (retained by the club) and the duplicate had to be stamped.

    "Richmond Park" was first cab off the rank and it was successful fro day 1. By early 1958, by virtue of no one selecting the 5 winners, the pool "jackpotted" with a carryover of £15,000 pound being declared for the April 12, 1958 meeting. Big backers sat up and took notice and they headed on course, the gates were opened early in the afternoon and over 25,000 tickets were sold in 2 hours. Extra staff were put on, one punter bought £800 pounds worth of entries and it was a bonanza for the club...they all had to fed and watered.

    However, all active tickets foundered in the 4th leg when Final Derby won. A consolation prize of £3,000 was paid and a carryover amount of £25,000 was set for the May 10th, 1958 meeting at Fremantle.

    Big time Eastern States punters got on board, syndicates were formed in order to try and claim the anticipated £50,000 prize. The Fremantle Club announced that 120,000 tickets had been ordered and that the gates would open in the morning. It must have ordered more because 128,952 tickets were sold. 

    Bookmaker Bill Mack purchased 5,000 tickets but found the task of filling them in too much and returned 1000 tickets. Once again, no one selected the five winners.....Mack was still alive after 3 legs but faltered on race 7. Two other punters got the first 4 legs but missed out on race 8. Volcano won race 4 for the Johnsons, Clarionet (N.Willows) won race 5, Rocklee Lass (Cliff Collett) won race 6 from Minstrel King, Hilton Mint won race 7 for Ernie Stewart (not the swab case, that would be at it's next start) and Williams Choice won the last leg for Max Johnson from Jackie Scott (Harry Miller) and Billy Collette (Mick Cooper). This was the "Jackpot" that Chariots was referring to but it wasn't the £92,000 pound Jackpot. After a consolation of £10,000 pounds was declared, there was a carryover of £43,190 pounds which was to be the foundation of the upcoming meeting on Monday June 2nd, 1958, a public holiday.

    The Jackpot was now having a disastrous effect on business in Fremantle, people stoped spending, the jackpot was all that was being talked about, a lot of money was "out of circulation" and the government had to do something and it did, stipulating that all £10,000 pound would have to be distributed no matter what. In effect a ceiling of £10,000 pound was put in place with pool payouts of 10% for 3 winners, 25% for 4 winners and 65% for the 5 winners put in place. If you picked 5 winners, you also were counted as having a winning ticket in both the 4 winner and 3 winner allocation.

    The club ordered 280,000 tickets for the June 2 meeting, and employed an extra 230 staff. Syndicates of "expert form analysts" were formed, individuals flew over from the Eastern States, the gates opened at 7.00am and by the start of racing, the course was packed to capacity. Prior to race 4, the tickets and money had been counted and the pool of £92,000 was declared, the biggest ever in Australia, surpassing the previous record at Canterbury Racecourse the previous January.

    Brawler 7/2  (Les Poyser) won race 4, Noonquest  7/4 fav (Ray Walton) won race 5, Silver Mane 7/1 (Max Johnson) won race 6, Darby Nelson 14/1(Cyril Martin) race 7 and Hilton Mint (Ernie Stewart)7/2 beat Peter Collette in Race 8. Hilton Mint would later go positive and be disqualified but it was too late for the punters who held 4 valid tickets on Peter Collette. The results were later amended to make Peter Collette the winner.

    There were at last 8 winning tickets, each worth £8,277/11/- and a Narrogin syndicate of businessmen and farmers held two tickets. Other winners were a Wagin Syndicate headed by Aub Ward who had 340 tickets, Geoffrey and Mrs Williams, Mario Bordin, Mrs M.A Mcleod who bought only one ticket and Mrs B Meakins, wife of a police sergeant who also bought just the one ticket. A Melbourne man invested £2,500 and out of his 10,000 tickets he had just the one winning entry.

    The crowd for that June 2 meeting was officially posted at 21,000 but with all manner of stories of incentive payments to drivers of up to £6,500 pounds, and offers of 100's of pounds not to win, many trainers hoped it would never get that big again and they were supported by traders and business houses in Fremantle but it was great while it lasted.

    There were dozens of hard luck stories but the  hardest of the all were the Peter Collette punter. The Jackpot continued on but never reached the heights of 1958 and when the TAB came into being, it disappeared altogether.

    Trust that sorts out any confusion...was very deep rabbit hole. Still trying to get my head around 21,000 people at Richmond Raceway.
  • JayJayJayJay    8,264 posts
    1978 The First $100,000 WA Cup

    Part 1. The Politics.

    The first $100k WA Cup in January 1978 was a great moment for WA Harness Racing. By comparison, the Melbourne Cup held in November 1977 won by Gold And Black was worth $150,000 and it seems inconceivable for there to be anything close to stakes parity between the two races in 2025. For the record, the WA Cup will be worth $450,000 next December whilst this years Melbourne Cup will be worth $10 million dollars.

    Whilst the racing at the 77/78 Carnival was something to behold, it was the incredible battles going on within the Halls of Power that dominated the lead in to the decision to double the stake money from $50,000 to $100,000. 

    Though it was rarely plain sailing at the WATA Committee level, the ructions, personality clashes, claims, counter claims, court battles, election coups, signed accusatory affidavits, dismissals, back stabbings and retirements were next level.

    The scene was set early days in the lead up when Radio Station 6IX jacked up about broadcast fees in March 1977 and the TAB promptly bought 25% of rival station 6PR in order to guarantee race broadcasts. 

    A Royal Visit, usually a bonanza, by Queen Elizabeth for the $35,000 Queen Elizabeth Cup (won by Fastease for Bob Godecke over Ala Moana and Tavis) fell flat when a small crowd attended amid claims that the elevated stake was a "waste of money". Some may recall the most memorable part of the night was when Bob Godecke dropped the trophy at the presentation.

    This prompted WATA committeeman Wayne Bradshaw to declare that industry was a "sinking ship", it was uneconomical to continue to race pacers in WA and that he would be selling his breeding stud. The Committee then asked Dr Bradshaw to resign, an offer that he declined.It wasn't sinking that fast.

    An affidavit from Gordon House then alleged that Bradshaw had made defamatory remarks about Deputy Chief Steward Ken Ford, other members of the committee (Ron Porter and Jim Leahy) and prominent trainer driver Trevor Warwick (with whom House raced horses). There were further allegations involving Jim Deveraux and politician Ray O'Connor. It was a febrile environment and Bradshaw counter punched with Supreme Court writs and a Special General Meeting of the WATA, which endorsed Bradshaw. 

    By June, all matters were resolved out of court, all allegations withdrawn and Bradshaw declared his "full support" for President Jim Leahy. It was an uneasy peace which wouldn't last.

    Meanwhile, long standing Secretary of the WATA, Ern Perry, retired, Leahy announced an increase in stakes, the WA Cup would be upped to $100,000 and the Australian Pacing Championship would be held in WA in 1979. But this was all against a back drop of owner Russell Roberts declaring he would not race his horses in WA whilst the current stewards panel was in control, all stemming from a $400 fine imposed at the previous WA Cup for slamming a door on exit from the stewards room. With Ex Adios and Another Eden already racing over East, Roberts agreed that he would time trial Pure Steel but not at Gloucester Park. He did so at Richmond Raceway and Steelo stopped the clock at 1.58.7. He then sent him east to continue racing but in spite of a defamation writ being issued against him by Chairman of Stewards Don Thomas, the lure of the $100k was too much and Steelo returned to campaign in WA.

    WATA Committee elections were held, and a big field, including Mal Brown, contested the vacancies. Bradshaw topped the poll, and was joined by Ron Davies, Darryl Hollingworth, Jim Snooks and Chris Hodgson, with committeemen Somers and Moylan losing their seats.  Big Mal ran last. When the full committee convened, Jim Leahy and Ron Porter didn't receive "full support" and were deposed as President and Vice President. Bob Treasure was installed as President with Davies as his deputy. Some thought Treasure was a soothing interim appointment as the term "committee coup" was bandied about by he vanquished but he proved to be a steady if unspectacular hand.

    Just as World Series Cricket was about to reward the coffers of the WATA with a a lucrative deal, the peace was shattered when the committee, in an attempt to solve the impasse with Russell Roberts, asked Chief Steward Thomas to retire and become "Racing Administrator. He declined but Roberts bought Pure Steel back to race anyway. The committee were very aware of just how big a draw card the champion Pure Steel was. Thomas would later retire in 1979 aged 60.

    Such was the domination of the political back and forth, reported almost daily in the local papers, that some could be forgiven for thinking that a fantastic carnival of actual racing was about to break out.

    Pure Steel, Royal Force, Milson Edition and Virgil Queen had represented WA in the Adelaide version of the Australian Pacing Championship won by the magnificent Rip Van Winkle for audacious trainer/driver Michael Van Der Kemp. The $2,200 dollar yearling sale purchase by the relatively unknown NSW horseman had swept all before him as the dominant 2, 3 and 4 year old horse of his time, and when Van Der Kemp declared Rip to be "the best horse in Australia", heckles rose, chins jutted out, egos were on the line and it was game on for the 100 grand. It had the effect of pushing all the poisonous politics into the background even if it was only a temporary reprieve. With Paleface Adios, Nixon Adios, Little William, Yerilla Court, Annas Ann, Velvet Prince and numerous other quality horses nominated for the series, the Cup race qualifiers, racing from the mobile for the first time over 3000 metres, looked to be an event not to be missed. It would conclude in sensational circumstances with the eventual victor galloping over the line and produce a fantastic press photograph.

    Part 2   The Racing (to follow).

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  • MarkovinaMarkovina    3,127 posts

    JayJay said:

    Did read once looking for another article PHILOCK   won a jackpot regarding x amount winners,

    Philock did win a jackpot at Ascot.
    Sure it was Trots Jackpot early 60s read it old Kalgoorlie Miner, will have to go looking, it mentioned his real name funny with those jackpots seen where they named them and address.as well.
    Know have mentioned on this site previously regards
    1958 Fremantle Cup,won by Imperial, knew the trainer had cracked his son in  birdcage for beating stable-mate Sultana.which was heavily  backed Favourite . what i didn't know until last week reading old Kalgoorlie miner his Father refused to attend
    tropy presentation. he was to wild Sultana had got beat

    Headline in Kalgoorlie Miner Stable wins Fremantle Cup but wrong horse wins. Goeson to say Bill Johnsonwas to upset to recieve trophy for winning cup he was hugepunter; flucs 9/4 into 6/4. Stable-mate was 40/1
    It was a different world back then a no nonsense world 

    When you say quote  " Where they named them , address as well "

    Different topic , but back in the late 60s early 70s , if you didnt in your tax return in the particular year - current year , declare all your income  then they would be  named publicly , in the major newspapers - this was seen as an effective deterrant 

    I can remember one year in that era , Harry White ( amongst others ) was named in the newspapers as not declaring all his income and thus evading tax , hah , hah , hah 

    Imagine that happening today , geez all the whingers would be out in force 

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  • savethegamesavethegame    3,067 posts
    Marko---  Key point i used in the famous alleged ring in story regards PALFRESCO--VITAL, way back when boats had passenger list in papers. Such intriguing happenings that   trainer F,Thomas had arrived in FREMANTLE aboard Maunada with three horses august 12 1936.- 

    But trainer F,Thomas was on passenger list on board boat called Duntroon which berthed in Fremantle harbour 28th July, two days before court case when Palfresco Caulfield Cup lease was terminated. And returned to his original owner. plus, all the other happenings, Story that had everything, 
  • (October 1 11:45AM )
    JayJayJayJay    8,264 posts
    Okay, Grand Final weekend(s) done and dusted, League and reserves Premierships for Deanmill,
    East Perth just missed (ripped off) and my beloved Roy Boys destroyed the Cats. 

    Just how many times can you watch the Grand Final Replay? Answer: Well when you have been following Fitzroy since 1962, the answer is simple.....Not enough. Lachie Neale is as good a player as I have seen in the last 30 years and Will Ashcroft is gifted.

    So back to the Racing.

    1978 The First $100,000 WA Cup (Part 2)

    Behind all the parry and thrust, lies and spin, statements of loyalty and backstabbing, displays of foul self entitlement (what has changed?) and the shadows of corrupt practices and political manoeuvring, the quality of nominations and the presence of the best horse I have ever seen, Pure Steel, and the challenger, the hugely talented and rarely acknowledged Rip Van Winkle, was a promoters dream. The media, both written and television, provided blanket coverage of what was to be a sensational carnival.

    Steelo was the undisputed King, holder of both the Hunter Cup and the WA Cup, and at the top of his game. Enter stage right Rip Van Winkle.

    Purchased by relatively unknown Maitland trainer Michael Van Der Kemp for $2,200 at the 1975 Parramatta Yearling Sale, the Noel Simpson bred son of Thor Hanover swept away the opposition including Sammy Karamea, as a 2 year old.  He was nigh on unbeatable, winning all the feature races all over the Eastern States, 14 starts, 10 wins and 3 placings, and barring some poor standing start beginnings, he would have been undefeated. He was voted Australian 2 year old pacer of the year and attracted an offer of $100,000 from Brian Gath, which was rejected.

    As a 3 year old, even better. 22 starts 18 wins, four seconds, $111k in stake money, won 11 in a row, completed the treble of the NSW Derby, Sires and Southern Cross stakes and won features in Victoria, NSW and Queensland. Have champ, will travel. He was named Australian 3 year old of the year and was the first three year old to be named Australian Horse of the year. He was a champion.

    Would he come back as a 4 year old was the question? Would he what, he became the first 4 year old to win the Spring Cup at Harold Park and before heading across to WA, he swept the Australian Pacing Championship at Globe Derby Park beating Milson Edition and Pure Steel. A week later, he came from last in a Free For All to smash Paleface Adios and set a new track record of 1.57.4. Michael van Der Kemp had every right to roll into Perth claiming he had the best horse in Australia. Rip had taken his stake earnings to an amazing $194k, unheard of back then.

    There was not only Pure Steel, a winner of the previous Cup from 20 metres, to contend with. Fred Kersley had taken over the brilliant young horse Nixon Adios after the leading juvenile trainer Jesse Moore had set the 2 year old world alight with him and had progressed this star 3 and then 4 year old, through some extremely impressive wins in the WA Derby and the Christmas Gift. Throw in Royal Force, Little William, Virgil Queen and Milson Edition and it was game on.

    Steelo failed in the first round of heats with first blood going to Rip but he reasserted himself as favourite after heat wins in round 2 and 3, with wins over Nixon Adios in both instances. Rip also recorded two heat wins and the final field was set. Paleface Adios (with a heat win) and Royal Force also qualified but Royal Force was a late scratching with swelling to his near fore and Noble Bill came into the field. Velvet Prince, Little William, Annas Ann, Yerilla Court and Milson Edition made up the remaining challengers to Rip, Steelo, Paleface and Nixon. 3000m from the mobile for $100,000.....the anticipation was huge and a capacity crowd filled all vantage points at Gloucester Park. In 1978, trotting was King as far as night time entertainment was concerned in Perth.

    The race was a triumph for Pure Steel and Coulson . Coulson had Steelo in front after a lap had been covered and looked set to record an easy victory.he simply ran the opposition ragged.  However, 10 metres from the post he hit his knee and and broke into a gallop. He semi skipped over the line 2 metres clear of Nixon Adios who was storming home but never really looked like catching the great stayer.

    The hard luck story of the race was the 3rd placed Rip Van Winkle. He had a torrid run, battered from pillar to post. Both tyres on his cart were deflated, one came off the rim completely and the other wrapped itself around the hub placing him at a severe disadvantage. It was an enormous effort from him and flew against all the local commentary that he was a just a "speedy squib". He was anything but. Les Poyser, who was suspended for "tightening" Rip on the first turn felt aggrieved. "I was made the scapegoat" he said. But Michael and Gwen Van Der Kemp felt more than a little aggrieved themselves after the race but showed more grace than some of the abrasive locals, when they acknowledged that Steelo was a great champion.

    Noble Bill ran a great race in coming from last to finish fourth.

    It is true that in early February, Pure Steel was acclaimed the "Iron Horse of Australian Pacing" after being given a herculean task by his driver in the Hunter Cup which he won by running Rip Van Winkle into the ground at Moonee Valley causing Rip to miss the Interdominion Series, a series in which Steelo also underperformed in not making the final. The "know alls" said Steelo had broken Rips heart and ruined him forever. 
    The records suggest otherwise as Rip would return, still as a 4 year old (remembering Steelo was a seasoned 6 year old) to win the NSW 4 year old championship and his heats and Final of the Sir Clive Uhr at Albion Park (beating the champion Maoris Idol) to round out his 4 year old campaign with 26 starts, 20 wins and 4 placings for another $174k in stakes. Pure Steel had 24 starts for 12 wins and 6 placings and $201k in stakes. 

    I reiterate that Pure Steel was the best horse I ever saw but Rip Van Winkle's record deserves far more respect than he received, he was also a great horse.

    Subsequent to the $100,000 Cup, the political games at the WATA once again surfaced with Deputy Chief Steward Ken Ford being dismissed without notice or reason, his four hour appeal hearing which was closed to the press, resulted in no reinstatement. Ford would later move to the ill fated attempt to establish harness racing In Macau as chief steward, a high profile venture that petered out into oblivion 

    Jim Leahy was deposed from his position on the Australian Trotting Council by new president Bob treasure and Committeeman Chris Hodgson, both Leahy and Ron Porter eventually called it quits and resigned from the committee stating that block voting against them made life intolerable. Dr Ern Manea and John Barnett joined as replacements and provided some much needed stability when they joined the committee. 

    Clive Martin was appointed Chairman of Stewards and soon made his presence felt suspending 63 drivers in a two month period for crossing, tightening, pushing out and general incompetence, and the first independent Appeals Board was established. Martins actions gained broad approval from leading drivers Schrader, Coulson and Warwick but it didn't last long after claims of undue pressure from the committee over his tighter interpretation of the rules. Martin was replaced by former Victorian, the very highly regarded Ray Murrihy, who would go on to establish himself as the gold standard of stewarding across both major codes

    Never a dull moment down by the palms in 1978. There were calls from many quarters to establish a Trotting Control Board, independent of the WATA influence that many alleged was pandering to vested interests but it never happened for another two decades and we ended up with a multicode  Quango that some would consider has been of debatable benefit.


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