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Just a note to punters who might have backed stay lady stay last week

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[DeletedUser][DeletedUser]    0 posts
edited August 2012 West Australian Racing
To anyone who backed stay lady stay last week its win first up were they said the time was 112.36 i had time as being 113.24 or around that mark was slower then reported anyway which may explain the poor run put in the other day BEING CLOSE TO 5 LENGTHS OUT IS MASSIVE.Dont know if u got same at all carey i just know it was slower then was was put on site.

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  • RodentRodent    7,472 posts
    I think the official time was right and your time was wrong.
  • [DeletedUser][DeletedUser]    0 posts
    edited August 2012

    Fair enough i stick with mine rodent horse ran no were near its price last start also i think that more then says enough about the time recored.

  • TheDivaTheDiva    13,248 posts
    tongue over bit.
  • nawnaw    84 posts

    actual time was 72.46 - official time was 72.36

     

    nowhere near 73.24

  • careycarey    6,424 posts
    oh bugger, i was going to say nothing, but then 'naw' said is was 72.46 and that's a big..... naw it wasn't!

    i say it was 72 seconds flat, although the official time of 72.36 IS correct when measured against the other times on that day, so rodent is correct, and you other guys are wrong.
  • nawnaw    84 posts

    72 flat   lol

    Good to get confirmation of the edge we have here if that's your take on the times  :-)

     

     

  • [DeletedUser][DeletedUser]    0 posts
    edited August 2012
    Well  diva  he said it may have choked down we will see in future if horse fails again which it did off its last run after they found nothing.Then will see if my time is correct and everyone else has gone the other way as it stands horse did nothing last start and was well backed off a so called good first up win.As it stands its 1 nil boys happy to go with my time for race..Because if carey and rodent and naw are correct y did horse go like a busted next start if it fails again what will u say then could it be time u clocked was incorrect off its first up run.Will watch with interest.
  • careycarey    6,424 posts
    well let's put it this way 'naw', if the official was 72.36 and yours was slower than that, then that means you have been timing them for .1 second longer than the official has......
    of them STANDING IN THE GATES GOING NOWHERE.

    what was that about edge again?
    maybe you need to upgrade your video software!

  • careycarey    6,424 posts
    oh and i should say perth official is NEARLY ALWAYS accurate, in that how far wrong they are, is a constant, because the timer starts BEFORE the gates have opened.
    so anybody that get a time slower than the official IS dreaming.
    unless of course the race is hand timed and then it will often be faster than reality, because of 'reaction' time.
  • nawnaw    84 posts

    Won't argue with the fact perth official is NEARLY ALWAYS accurate. Rarely a diiference of more than one tenth but even rarer than that is a race with a correct official time. The same goes for anywhere in the nation.Those who rely on official times being accurate everywhere are sorely mistaken.

     

  • careycarey    6,424 posts
    i could hazard a guess as to who you are naw, but won't
    could you be the guy i am about to talk about(or work for him)?

    there is a guy that the syndicates use, that times(and sections) all races covered by sky.
    he THINKS he is more accurate than official, and often he is, but just as often he is NOT.
    i used to have access to all those times, and often would make up spreadsheets comparing him/official/me(those that i do), as part of what i do(or used to do)
    the correlation official to me, is always stronger, than official to timing guy, or me to timing guy on wa races.
    wa times(provincial and metro) are usually good although there are some errors.
    the main problem with wa is the sections are fantasy very often, but i think that's human error rather than anything else.
    for instance kalgoorlie sections last sunday were ridiculous and maybe the guy responsible was hungover or something!!

    sydney and provincial nsw were terrible last time i checked, and maybe other places are too.
    and it's a given that most country tracks are wrong too, because it will mostly be hand timed.

    but western australia official times for provincial a,b and metro are mostly ok, with the exception of albany,mt barker and geraldton sometimes.

    why do i know all this??
    because i check them all, each and every race, so no i don't rely on official times, but just the same i am not going to say they're wrong when i know they're not.
    it's just part of trying to be better than the next bloke

    and one thing i always find weird.
    how do you think you can time off video, more precisely than electronic timers.
    you have to have a margin of error built in to your software.
    sure there are official errors, but not as bad as you seem to think

    of one thing i am sure.....if you think perth races are rarely accurate(even if close) then you need to fix however you check the times, because it is YOU that is wrong.




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  • RodentRodent    7,472 posts
    I'm with carey!
  • [DeletedUser][DeletedUser]    0 posts
    edited August 2012
    Just so we are clear stay lady stay has now had 3 starts since its first up win were i said horse did not run time posted i feel that clearly after its 3 runs since a first up win that idea was spot on at this point the horse has failed to run a place since.U can keep your so called edge naw i am happy with mine cheers.
  • RodentRodent    7,472 posts
    That's proof enough  :^o
  • [DeletedUser][DeletedUser]    0 posts
    edited August 2012

    Yes so true having layed it 3 times since its so called time first up i enjoyed the proof in eating.

    :))
  • RodentRodent    7,472 posts
    edited August 2012
    If you laid it on the basis that the time was a lot slower than that officially recorded, you simply got lucky.
     Cougar Town was soundly beaten 2.5L in that midweek race by Stay Lady Stay yet was able to finish just 1.25L from Platinum Rocker in Saturday class. Does that prove the official time was right? Of course not. No more than Stay Lady Stay going like a busted proves you right.
    Horses lose form for all sorts of reasons.
     Carey is the time aficionado around here. He knows you're wrong and so do I. I think your hour glass must have lost too much sand.
    :!!
  • TheDivaTheDiva    13,248 posts
    great use of emoticons.......we should have an award for that...
    =D>
  • [DeletedUser][DeletedUser]    0 posts
    edited August 2012
    Rodent u  think u are right says who u i dont care to much what u think to be honest.
  • RodentRodent    7,472 posts
    edited August 2012
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  • RodentRodent    7,472 posts
    carey said:


    i say it was 72 seconds flat, although the official time of 72.36 IS correct when measured against the other times on that day, so rodent is correct, and you other guys are wrong.

    Mailman, you started a thread "A Question For Carey" regarding times. Obviously you value his judgement on times. So now you don't value his judgement when you disagree? You'll say I'm wrong but you do realise that you are saying you think carey is wrong too.
     Market:
    carey+rodent wrong... $80
    mailman wrong...........$1.01
     The volume of money is huge at the 1.01 but I can't wind it in any further. I may have to suspend betting
    Some people just don't want to be told %-(
  • [DeletedUser][DeletedUser]    0 posts
    edited August 2012
    Yeah i do respect his ideas as i do yours not that u give to many the question was asked about country racing not perth times if u care to read question.As i dont log them much.Will have to agree to disagree i dont feel the need to take it any further am happy with what i do good luck to u also.
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