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Stewards Lift Bleeding Ban On Famous Roman

West Australian Racing
GlenmoreParkGlenmorePark    527 posts
Sunday, 14 November 2010: (from AAP)

Perth stewards have lifted the bleeding ban on crack performer Famous Roman, enabling him to continue with his summer carnival campaign.

The stewards re- considered the ban placed on Famous Roman after he won on November 6 at Ascot.

He was banned under the rule that states an attack of bleeding shall be the appearance of blood at both nostrils, irrespective of quantity, unless in the opinion of the stewards such bleeding was caused by external trauma.

Fresh evidence presented by the connections of Famous Rpman that included results of a Bronchoalveolar Lavage (BAL) carried out on the horse on November 11 by veterinarians.

A BAL involves the washing out of cellular material from a horse's lungs to examine for signs of Exercised Induced Pulmonary Haemorrhage (EIPH).

The results of this test revealed no evidence of any recent or prior haemorrhage.

In light of this fresh evidence, the stewards directed that Famous Roman be sent to Murdoch where he underwent a complete examination in order to determine the origin of the nasal bleeding.

This examination included an endoscopy and x-rays of the horse's head and sino-nasal region.

The x-rays revealed no abnormalities but the endoscopy of the left nasal cavity revealed evidence of mucosal abrasions with associated inflammation.

Examination of the right nasal cavity revealed an area of abrasions similar to those in the left nasal cavity.

All other areas of the airways were found to be within normal limits.

The report further noted that the nasal mucosa appeared to be particularly fragile and bled easily and concluded it would seem plausible under these circumstances that the blood could have originated from the nasal mucosa during exercise.

Dr Judith Medd, RWWA Veterinarian, advised the stewards that in light of the results of the BAL and further testing conducted at Murdoch University Veterinary Hospital it was not possible to conclusively determine the origin of the nasal bleeding experienced by Famous Roman on November 6 and that scientific testing had revealed a degree of probability that the bleeding may not have originated from the horse's lungs.

Under these circumstances, stewards could not rule out that the bleeding was caused by external trauma and as such lifted the ban on Famous Roman immediately.

Comments

  • lets_elopelets_elope    299 posts
    Big surprise the oncourse vet got it wrong, Jim should lodge an official complaint about their competency, as it has compromised his horse's preparation for the Railway and it's not as if there is much money at stake either.
  • RodentRodent    7,472 posts
    said:

    Big surprise the oncourse vet got it wrong, Jim should lodge an official complaint about their competency, as it has compromised his horse's preparation for the Railway and it's not as if there is much money at stake either.

    It bled from both nostrils with no evidence of head trauma so the on course vet didn't necessarily get it wrong on the day.
    Perhaps after FR was scoped the wrong decision was made.
    Perhaps in this case (given how much was at stake) it would have been prudent to say that the horse required further testing before a definitive ban was put in place.
  • jesteressjesteress    103 posts
    if it bleeds thru both nostrils again i hope they slap a ban on for three months regardless if the vets can't tell where the blood comes from :?
  • lets_elopelets_elope    299 posts
    Horses that bleed aren't generally able to circle to the entire field from last in a slowly run race and swamp them to record a brilliant win running the last 600m in 33.44

    They refused him the opportunity to trial on the monday and have it scoped afterwards if it had bled as they claim just two days earlier its almost certainly going to bleed again in a trial.

    They were completely obstinate and as usual they think their authority is written in stone and that they were absolutely 100% correct and by not accepting what Jim Taylor said and at least checking that out properly they were effectively calling him a liar and questioning his integrity.

    Jim Taylor is a former jockey and an outstanding horseman he's not going to send a horse out to race and possibly cause a horrific accident if it actually is a bleeder and is a high likelihood of bleeding.
  • JAYKAYJAYKAY    4 posts
    In this case Jin probably should have informed the stewards pre race about the float incident and then this shamozzle would not have occurred
  • gonzogonzo    6 posts
    JT should have told the stewards BEFORE the race (not after) that the horse hit his head.
  • lets_elopelets_elope    299 posts
    And with their incompetency if he notified them beforehand they may have scratched it on him in its final Railway leadup, I'd back Jim to judge the condition of his horse far better than the on course perth racing vet who has continually stuffed up, so in his position I wouldnt of notified them either, and the way the horse performed have one guess who was right.

    If Jim had thought it worthwhile notifying them prior to the race if he had any genuine concerns about the horses welfare he would have.
    If you think the stewards get notified about every little minor thing that happens to a horse during the week by any trainer then you're living in fantasy land.
  • primemoverprimemover    141 posts
    All I got to say is I think it has opened a can of worms. :roll: :roll:
  • RodentRodent    7,472 posts
    Easy to close can of worms....ALL horses bleeding from both nostrils get 3 months regardless of where the blood is coming from.
  • lets_elopelets_elope    299 posts
    Any of you geniuses still think Famous Roman bled last start, on course vet has zero idea.
  • Famous1Famous1    551 posts
    said:

    Any of you geniuses still think Famous Roman bled last start, on course vet has zero idea.

    Would prefer him banned for 3 months and I would have had tri :D
  • highwaymanhighwayman    42 posts
    wonder if stewards would have considered any secondry tests had it been a maiden winner at collie :roll:
  • TheFunksterTheFunkster    3,840 posts
    Warm and muggy on Sat. If it was going to bleed it had the right conditions for it.
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