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Railway Stakes Final Field

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  • TiversTivers    7,720 posts
    For the sting to be out of Acot, Noah needs to be steaming up the Swan !
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  • careycarey    6,424 posts
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    For the sting to be out of Acot, Noah needs to be steaming up the Swan !


    I would love to know the watering regime that happens at Ascot.
    I have some really unusual numbers that don't make a lot of sense.....unless!

    My average going numbers are near identical for Belmont and Ascot midweek meetings.
    For Saturdays, Ascot average is about 10 metres faster than the equivalent at Belmont.
    If midweek is the same then would expect Saturdays to be so too.
    Makes me wonder when irrigation occurs and amount applied.

    Part of the reason would be that Ascot has a higher overall standard than Belmont where horse quality is concerned, but that is already accounted for.

    Thinking that maybe they want fast times for the big meetings so perhaps less water applied late in week compared to early???


    In fact I have this really interesting statistic that would love to understand.
    Nearly all my fastest going figures for Belmont are for midweek quality meetings.
    For Ascot all my fastest are for the Saturday standard meetings.
    Weird and doubt very much it is just coincidental.
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  • lordwaterlordwater    1,127 posts
    Was not the track watered for East coast horses last year, or was that Belmont. Question needs to be pondered will it apply this year. :?:
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  • Unknown
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    Was not the track watered for East coast horses last year, or was that Belmont. Question needs to be pondered will it apply this year. :?:

    the track is always watered altho the amount can vary, except of course when we have rain
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  • lordwaterlordwater    1,127 posts
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    Was not the track watered for East coast horses last year, or was that Belmont. Question needs to be pondered will it apply this year. :?:

    the track is always watered altho the amount can vary, except of course when we have rain
    Question answered. Good news. 8)
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  • lordwaterlordwater    1,127 posts
    Carey with his knowledge of Timing and Rating would be a good volunteer, on the sprinkler control. Time period of water supplied at rate of laying, would be right up his alley. However if he rocks up in Snorkel and Flippers save you'r money for PINJAR on Sunday. :lol:
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  • cubescubes    689 posts
    Live near Ascot, gets watered every night before the races and i reckon it gets watered sometimes morning of races on hot days.
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  • onyaonya    339 posts
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    Live near Ascot, gets watered every night before the races and i reckon it gets watered sometimes morning of races on hot days.

    that being the case its time my piggy bank met my hammer. :twisted:
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  • careycarey    6,424 posts
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    Carey with his knowledge of Timing and Rating would be a good volunteer, on the sprinkler control. Time period of water supplied at rate of laying, would be right up his alley. However if he rocks up in Snorkel and Flippers save you'r money for PINJAR on Sunday. :lol:

    Thank you my Mr Lordwater.

    I can think of one place I would love to stick a sprinkler!! :lol:

    Actually I was just looking at the Victorian ratings for those invaders.
    Had to have a chuckle.
    Your handicappers do not want a WA horse to win, or why then would he say there is only .5 kg between Victoria and WA.
    Their ratings have jumped a lousy 1 point only.

    If I was a WA trainer I would be furious that they are handing out free invitations to the eastern state horses at the expense of their own.

    .5kg indeed!!!
    Knock it off Mr Hunter, surely you live in fantasy or cloud cuckoo land if you honestly believe that to be correct.
    I must be old fashioned, as I always thought the purpose of handicapping was to handicap.
    Seemingly it is no longer so.
    If a WA horse wins the race, it in no way alters the fact that he is dreaming.
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  • wotsupwotsup    424 posts
    Watering has had a good run, if aint done then no excuses.
    Megatic.
    All American.
    Grand Nirvana.
    :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: 8)
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  • TheDivaTheDiva    13,248 posts
    Do any of the trackwork spies know if all runners in the Railway this week worked ? I know not all worked at breakfast with the stars but did they all get a hit out ?
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  • [DeletedUser][DeletedUser]    0 posts
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    Do any of the trackwork spies know if all runners in the Railway this week worked ? I know not all worked at breakfast with the stars but did they all get a hit out ?

    Won't be winning a railway if they didn't :shock: Saw Lords Ransom over me fence.
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  • DarkDark    909 posts
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    Do any of the trackwork spies know if all runners in the Railway this week worked ? I know not all worked at breakfast with the stars but did they all get a hit out ?

    Won't be winning a railway if they didn't :shock: Saw Lords Ransom over me fence.
    How did he look?
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  • TorpedoPuntTorpedoPunt    1,891 posts
    Snipers for me.

    Danger GS.
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  • VorgtrafficVorgtraffic    1,755 posts
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    Snipers for me.

    Danger GS.

    they've gotta win sometime

    right...right?!

    hmm i think ill go for tarzi
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  • [DeletedUser][DeletedUser]    0 posts
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    said:

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    Do any of the trackwork spies know if all runners in the Railway this week worked ? I know not all worked at breakfast with the stars but did they all get a hit out ?

    Won't be winning a railway if they didn't :shock: Saw Lords Ransom over me fence.
    How did he look?
    Looked good, will be motoring at the business end.
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  • TheDivaTheDiva    13,248 posts
    Isn't Lord's Ransom on a campaign towards the Perth Cup ?
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  • dungydungy    9,278 posts
    I would have thought thats his target the 2400m PERTH CUP -
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  • ShanghaiShanghai    381 posts
    Any thoughts on Famous Roman,good barrier,good weight and form really not that bad
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  • TheFunksterTheFunkster    3,840 posts
    Gold Salute
    All American
    Snipers Bullet
    Lords Ransom - best roughie. Maybe be aiming at Pth Cup but could go well fresh.
    As with most years luck in running to decide the outcome!

    Wrt watering, I'm sure they will still apply more! Drainage was over- engineered when new track put in, it drains too quick!
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  • TiversTivers    7,720 posts
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    Any thoughts on Famous Roman,good barrier,good weight and form really not that bad

    Pass.........

    LATE CHANGES

    Race 7: Famous Roman - Bar Shoes On (Fronts)

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  • darkshinesdarkshines    2,837 posts
    Surprised by this interest in Lords Ransom. He'll be last or alongside it in a moderately run race, with some ok G1 animals in front of him. If he ran in the first half of the field I'd be surprised.
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  • TheDivaTheDiva    13,248 posts
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    Any thoughts on Famous Roman,good barrier,good weight and form really not that bad

    I think the horse should be in the spelling paddock, and he ran like it last start. Just no zip. Don't know what his work was like this week.
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  • TheDivaTheDiva    13,248 posts
    His last run wasnt that bad given the position he was in during the run, was never going to pick them up from there. Going on last years run in the railway where he was absolutely chopped up, he'd be a good chance in this BUT bar shoes on both fronts is a concern.
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  • darkshinesdarkshines    2,837 posts
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    Any thoughts on Famous Roman,good barrier,good weight and form really not that bad

    I think the horse should be in the spelling paddock, and he ran like it last start. Just no zip. Don't know what his work was like this week.
    Only thing I could say in his favour is that it was his first run back from Melb, and Keytomoney improved markedly at his second run back, maybe he'll do the same.

    Aside from that, he's not good enough for this.
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  • TheDivaTheDiva    13,248 posts
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    His last run wasnt that bad given the position he was in during the run, was never going to pick them up from there. Going on last years run in the railway where he was absolutely chopped up, he'd be a good chance in this BUT bar shoes on both fronts is a concern.

    He was way too fresh last year for this race. I thought last week he just lacked over the last 100M and the first 5 pulled away from him in the concluding stages.

    Grand Nirvana is the best of the locals for mine. Comes into the race very fit and with luck in running would have won either of his last two lead up races. Hopefully the barrier will not disadvantage him.
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  • TheFunksterTheFunkster    3,840 posts
    Lords Ransom would need to be $40+ to be a betting proposition, but I will be including in my trifecta. I'm not too concerned about what looks to be a lack of pace. 9 out of 10 Railways are solidly run affairs.

    Anyone heading to the cas today for the preview show?
    I'm hoping to get there
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  • darkshinesdarkshines    2,837 posts
    Where'd you get that stat from? The last two were walks :shock:
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  • TheDivaTheDiva    13,248 posts
    Grand Nirvana was held safely by Colour Correct last start over the last 50m..after colour correct raced wide and had a torrid run. Lords Ransom is a fair dinkum 100/1 shot in my book. Cant have either of them.
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  • VorgtrafficVorgtraffic    1,755 posts
    what price grand nirvana for 3rd :lol:
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