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Railway Stakes Final Field

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  • lordwaterlordwater    1,127 posts
    64 but i only got to grade 5 :lol:
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  • darkshinesdarkshines    2,837 posts
    Colour Correct spelling according to rag.
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  • TiversTivers    7,720 posts
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    64 but i only got to grade 5 :lol:

    h/m highlighted (possible runners) I meant
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  • careycarey    6,424 posts
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    64 but i only got to grade 5 :lol:


    You don't fool me Mr Lordwater
    Years schooling would likely show no correlation to intelligence.
    But why, if you went to grade 5 did you name the subject grade 6? :lol:
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  • lordwaterlordwater    1,127 posts
    Lack of education proved by you Carey. As you pointed out I cannot even remember correct placement of figures. Further as you found it WHY bother me about, a poor uneducated peaceful soul. :?: :?
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  • lordwaterlordwater    1,127 posts
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    64 but i only got to grade 5 :lol:

    h/m highlighted (possible runners) I meant
    gotit narh guv. anyweys i fink so. 8)
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  • careycarey    6,424 posts
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    Lack of education proved by you Carey. As you pointed out I cannot even remember correct placement of figures. Further as you found it WHY bother me about, a poor uneducated peaceful soul. :?: :?


    Just to show education and intelligence are not the same; I only got to grade eight!!
    And we are both pretty smart if you ask me!! 8) :lol:
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  • lordwaterlordwater    1,127 posts
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    said:

    Lack of education proved by you Carey. As you pointed out I cannot even remember correct placement of figures. Further as you found it WHY bother me about, a poor uneducated peaceful soul. :?: :?


    Just to show education and intelligence are not the same; I only got to grade eight!!
    And we are both pretty smart if you ask me!! 8) :lol:
    Carey for over 12 months I have strived to show how Humble and Generous of nature I am. In one foul swoop you elevate me to the Smarty bracket and really stuff things up. Though thank you for trying, it is the best you can do and I know you had no forethought of malice. :roll: :roll: :roll:
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  • careycarey    6,424 posts
    Sorry Mr Lordwater sir, it won't happen again.
    I am suitably chastised. :oops:
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  • lordwaterlordwater    1,127 posts
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    Sorry Mr Lordwater sir, it won't happen again.
    I am suitably chastised. :oops:

    Three ( Hail Marys) but if that N/A and you are of other Faith. Three respects to you'r Gawd. Sin no more, peace be with you fellow human. :roll:
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  • TheDivaTheDiva    13,248 posts
    Well travelled trial watcher of many years shared the view this morning at Belmont, that this years Railway Stakes was an ordinary bunch, supplemented by some very second rate Eastern Staters. No denying the tenacity of the winner, but a lot were just making up the numbers.

    In watching the replay on the PR site, I thought for Snipers Bullet to be able to run away at the top of the straight and hold off the bunch so easily was either a very good performance from him, or a different class horse was trying to chase him down.

    I don't think on review, that this race will become known as a "classic" Railway
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  • [DeletedUser][DeletedUser]    0 posts
    Do you ever tire of being so negative Tete ? :roll:
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  • TheDivaTheDiva    13,248 posts
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    Do you ever tire of being so negative Tete ? :roll:

    I see the comment as positive. Call it as it is. Far too much sugar coated promotion goes on here. So this race was won by a superior ride maximising the attributes of Snipers Bullet. In hindsight he is probably unlucky not to have won last year.

    However what the public was served up as "top class", was anything but in review. The so called interstate raiders, were nothing more than passengers. The Race this year did not have the depth of last year, something I eluded to prior to Saturday, and that was proven in running.

    Just because you run for $1M, doesn't ensure the quality being that of a Group 1, and that was proven on Saturday.
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  • TiversTivers    7,720 posts
    Well if it counts for anything, I thought the scenery at ascot saturday was definately top class !!! :D
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  • TheFunksterTheFunkster    3,840 posts
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    Well if it counts for anything, I thought the scenery at ascot saturday was definately top class !!! :D

    Yes was definitely a quality field. If I had to pick it, I would say not quite as good as Melb Cup day, but not far off.
    Hopefully this week is just as good, especially in the Ascot Summer Party marquee.
    I'll actually be celebrating my 40th if anyone wants to buy me a drink, not that i'll need many after the 3 hours of drinks included :abeer:
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  • TheDivaTheDiva    13,248 posts
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    Well if it counts for anything, I thought the scenery at ascot saturday was definately top class !!! :D

    Well on that point I cannot comment, as I did not attend. Can't go this week either due to work commitments in Albany.

    No doubt about having a rock star, it does bring people. To see Jimmy Barnes for $30 most would say who cares about the horses
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  • [DeletedUser][DeletedUser]    0 posts
    Tete if they had got a top class field and a small crowd you would of picked on the crowd being a dissappointment.
    Who cares if the race wasn't top class. they got a huge crowd and thats what you have been banging on about for ages. Tete your main gripe has been the lack of people on course. They do a promotion, get a huge crowd and you pick on the race. :roll:
    Come on, try and see some positives for once.
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  • TheFunksterTheFunkster    3,840 posts
    I don't believe that Jimmy Barnes & Diesel had much influence on the crowd numbers.
    If anyone associated with PR marketing reads stuff on this site, you could probably get a bigger bang for your buck with a popular artist that isn't a washed up has been :shock:
    Sorry any Jimmy Barnes fans....
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  • TheDivaTheDiva    13,248 posts
    I thought it was a great race...not sure what youre carrying on about to be honest. A great contest and a very even result.
    The Winterbottom is shaping up to be sensational aswell, Waratah's vs The Kid vs Lucky Secret, Ortensia, Thommo back and some other quality locals in there to boot.
    Theyll never top last year, but this is pretty mouthwatering nonetheless.
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  • TheDivaTheDiva    13,248 posts
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    Tete if they had got a top class field and a small crowd you would of picked on the crowd being a dissappointment.
    Who cares if the race wasn't top class. they got a huge crowd and thats what you have been banging on about for ages. Tete your main gripe has been the lack of people on course. They do a promotion, get a huge crowd and you pick on the race. :roll:
    Come on, try and see some positives for once.

    No I thought the crowd, apparently the biggest ever, was quite a successful promotion. But it is more about the band really, if it is a means to an end then so be it.

    But lets have some honesty, this was not the best Railway, probably not even in the top ten, as far as quality goes.

    I hope they convert a few of the people who went for the first time to come again, even the plea from the winning jockey to go out and buy a horse probably did more in real terms to promote the race, as his comments got mainstream media coverage.

    However, even last year with Takeover Target & Apache Cat running, numbers were disappointing at the Winterbottom meeting, this year they will be less again. simply chucking money at horse racing is not enough to get people to come along. One good horse from Melbourne with maybe one good local challenger will not quite get to last years heights.
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  • TheDivaTheDiva    13,248 posts
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    I don't believe that Jimmy Barnes & Diesel had much influence on the crowd numbers.
    If anyone associated with PR marketing reads stuff on this site, you could probably get a bigger bang for your buck with a popular artist that isn't a washed up has been :shock:
    Sorry any Jimmy Barnes fans....

    For the demographic that Perth Racing want to attract, Jimmy Barnes is a very safe bet. He covers a wide spectrum from 25 to 55 in his fan base.

    I know the top floor would probably prefer Mantovani, but they would struggle to get 4,000 on course for a similar such act.

    Michael Buble or Robbie Williams might get a differant result, but more coin needed than Jimmy.
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  • dungydungy    9,278 posts
    It was a great day ,a great race and a great support card of racing with ,Nash,Williams,Ollie and Harvey ,Pike and AK riding super races ,Tete if there were 50k people you would then complain about facilities and the Worlds best horses there you would still pick holes in Perth Racing.
    Try and be positive remember the only one to make $$$$ from negatives was Kodak my friend !!!!
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  • Unknown
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    Well travelled trial watcher of many years shared the view this morning at Belmont, that this years Railway Stakes was an ordinary bunch, supplemented by some very second rate Eastern Staters. No denying the tenacity of the winner, but a lot were just making up the numbers.

    In watching the replay on the PR site, I thought for Snipers Bullet to be able to run away at the top of the straight and hold off the bunch so easily was either a very good performance from him, or a different class horse was trying to chase him down.

    I don't think on review, that this race will become known as a "classic" Railway

    gee how the wheels have turned, a few months back u had Famous Roman winning at Gr level in Melb and having a huge future as a stallion
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  • TheDivaTheDiva    13,248 posts
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    said:

    Well travelled trial watcher of many years shared the view this morning at Belmont, that this years Railway Stakes was an ordinary bunch, supplemented by some very second rate Eastern Staters. No denying the tenacity of the winner, but a lot were just making up the numbers.

    In watching the replay on the PR site, I thought for Snipers Bullet to be able to run away at the top of the straight and hold off the bunch so easily was either a very good performance from him, or a different class horse was trying to chase him down.

    I don't think on review, that this race will become known as a "classic" Railway

    gee how the wheels have turned, a few months back u had Famous Roman winning at Gr level in Melb and having a huge future as a stallion
    Should have gone to Bart.
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  • TheDivaTheDiva    13,248 posts
    I still think the horse has a future as a Stallion, if some what limited to WA only, and more than likely in the $3,000 price range.

    Running in the Railway was just sending him around, he should be having a rest after being up for a long time. He almost looked dour on Saturday, making up some ground on the leaders that had got away in the turn and finshing at the tail end of the leading bunch in 8th place.

    Hopefully he comes back in several months full piss and vinegar.
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  • bartfargbartfarg    667 posts
    tete it was a handicap that had a good number of 100+ raters in it, some previous Gr1 horses and the likes of All American, Megatic, Gold Salute and Ortensia could not get close. They ran half a second from the track, state and race record. Total prize of the field is touching $8million so average runner has earnt $500k. I assume if you think the Railway was weak, that you think the Emirates was weak also given that 3 runners including the winner, 3rd and 5th came out of that race, with the winner (All American) beating the Cox Plate winner. Even the emergency comes out in the last race (0-86) and wins by 3.75 lengths running 3/4 second slower than Railway. Would not have even got near them in the Railway, that is why it didn't (and couldn't make the field!!!!

    Maybe if you looked at some stats first it might help support your opinion about the strength of races. Try the racing and sports website links http://www.racingandsports.com.au/breeding/openqual.asp?rid=754724 and compare to http://www.racingandsports.com.au/breeding/openqual.asp?rid=798895 as an example. You will see that not much different to last years field.

    Come on, just because there was no media hyped 'superstar' emerging from the race does not mean it was weak.

    Ask any trainer if they would like to have a runner in it and I think I know the answer, but unfortunately not many can even make it into that field. It was a good 1600m WA Group 1 race that attracted sound eastern states and some of the better local mile performers.
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  • TiversTivers    7,720 posts
    I'd like to have had a runner in it............ :cry:


    :lol:
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  • careycarey    6,424 posts
    And I noticed the winning trainer referred to the race as ......."'Australia's greatest mile race'" .....as reported in Melbourne's Sunday rag.

    I would have liked it much better if that lowly rated 84! horse CC had a decent run.
    I would likely have been counting my cash as had to have interest bets at odds available.
    I noticed the handicapper has finally come to his senses,.... partly anyway.
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  • careycarey    6,424 posts
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    I'd like to have had a runner in it............ :cry:


    :lol:


    My guess is you would still be drunk if had have!!!
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  • TheDivaTheDiva    13,248 posts
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    tete it was a handicap that had a good number of 100+ raters in it, some previous Gr1 horses and the likes of All American, Megatic, Gold Salute and Ortensia could not get close. They ran half a second from the track, state and race record. Total prize of the field is touching $8million so average runner has earnt $500k. I assume if you think the Railway was weak, that you think the Emirates was weak also given that 3 runners including the winner, 3rd and 5th came out of that race, with the winner (All American) beating the Cox Plate winner. Even the emergency comes out in the last race (0-86) and wins by 3.75 lengths running 3/4 second slower than Railway. Would not have even got near them in the Railway, that is why it didn't (and couldn't make the field!!!!

    Maybe if you looked at some stats first it might help support your opinion about the strength of races. Try the racing and sports website links http://www.racingandsports.com.au/breeding/openqual.asp?rid=754724 and compare to http://www.racingandsports.com.au/breeding/openqual.asp?rid=798895 as an example. You will see that not much different to last years field.

    Come on, just because there was no media hyped 'superstar' emerging from the race does not mean it was weak.

    Ask any trainer if they would like to have a runner in it and I think I know the answer, but unfortunately not many can even make it into that field. It was a good 1600m WA Group 1 race that attracted sound eastern states and some of the better local mile performers.

    You make a good counter arguement, but last years race was about 36 ratings points stronger, give or take a point.

    It goes without saying that every Trainer in the State would love to have a runner in the race.
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