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Belmont to become a state sporting complex

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  • [DeletedUser][DeletedUser]    0 posts
    Hahahaha yes of course.
    But seriously nobody seems to be able to give me the answer. Why has it NOW been deemed to be too difficult to be maintained.
    Thousands been spent on new stalls etc and now it is too difficult to be maintained. I don't get it.
    Well I do but its political. I just don't see how volunteers ran the place for so long, full circuit was used nearly all the time. Now under full time RWWA management its back straight only 90% of the time.
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  • TheFunksterTheFunkster    3,840 posts
    http://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/a/-/newshome/9089995/tennis-site-may-move-for-stadium/
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  • LuckyLongshotsLuckyLongshots    4,270 posts
    said:

    http://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/a/-/newshome/9089995/tennis-site-may-move-for-stadium/

    blah, blah, blah!

    The whole stadium issue is a debacle!

    So Racing wouldn't move, now Tennis to get the boot - what next?

    It'll be nice one day to go to this new stadium the governments keep telling us about, but I have a feeling I might be dead before we get it! :lol:
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  • TheFunksterTheFunkster    3,840 posts
    I reckon it would be great if they built it at the State Tennis Centre site.
    Belmont should benefit from it, with upgrades to shared transport infrastructure and if they were smart could look at programming some race meets to coincide with footy games and get extra patrons oncourse.
    I'm sure there are several other synergies too
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  • LuckyLongshotsLuckyLongshots    4,270 posts
    Burswood has always been the best place for a stadium.

    For several reasons:

    Major train line/station access.
    Not too close to high density residential (like Subi or East Perth)
    Is within walking distance of casino, pubs, races, golf (need I go on)
    Close to CBD, without being in it - walking distance from Midland train line.

    As for Subiaco:

    Subiaco residents don't want a stadium, they don't want what they currently have, so why bother trying to build a stadium for the future where it isn't wanted!

    Unfortunately it is all political - one day we'll get a stadium, but I'm not holding my breath!
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  • TiversTivers    7,720 posts
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    Build the stadium at Burswood.
    Keep the track, but sell off a lot of the land around it for other sporting venues, hotels (both accom and entertainment) and create a Melbourne Park style, all in one sporting precinct.
    Include a walkway over the river in to the City / Northbridge even, like the one from the MCG.

    PR retains the track and a reduced parcel of land around it on which to build a compact but comfortable "clubhouse".
    Everyone wins, and racing and other sports (and venues) will feed off each other.

    Been stealing my ideas (of sorts) again
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  • LuckyLongshotsLuckyLongshots    4,270 posts
    said:

    said:

    Build the stadium at Burswood.
    Keep the track, but sell off a lot of the land around it for other sporting venues, hotels (both accom and entertainment) and create a Melbourne Park style, all in one sporting precinct.
    Include a walkway over the river in to the City / Northbridge even, like the one from the MCG.

    PR retains the track and a reduced parcel of land around it on which to build a compact but comfortable "clubhouse".
    Everyone wins, and racing and other sports (and venues) will feed off each other.

    Been stealing my ideas (of sorts) again
    Yep, it's amazing how so little can be achieved by so many!

    The whole precinct setup in Melbourne is awesome, everything is within walking distance of each venue

    The stadium could have been opened by now if it weren't for political BS!
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  • lordwaterlordwater    1,127 posts
    said:

    Burswood has always been the best place for a stadium.

    For several reasons:

    Major train line/station access.
    Not too close to high density residential (like Subi or East Perth)
    Is within walking distance of casino, pubs, races, golf (need I go on)
    Close to CBD, without being in it - walking distance from Midland train line.

    As for Subiaco:

    Subiaco residents don't want a stadium, they don't want what they currently have, so why bother trying to build a stadium for the future where it isn't wanted!

    Unfortunately it is all political - one day we'll get a stadium, but I'm not holding my breath!

    On TV Subi council want to dig up road for 300 metre underground traffic by pass, to keep residents happy. Might be part of why we are known as one kind of Diggers. Could it be known as the SUBI TUBE. Things have changed but once we were diggers of a kind. Build a road then dig it up to put water on. Dig it up for gas to be put on etc, etc, I think you would get the message. lol.
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  • LuckyLongshotsLuckyLongshots    4,270 posts
    Finally looks like it all might be going ahead:
    http://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/a/-/newshome/9718788/cabinet-backs-burswood-stadium-site/

    I agree Burswood should be covering some of the re-developed transport costs, as they are getting a free stadium in their backyard!

    Ferry from Barrack Street, great idea!

    Monorail/Skyrail from Belmont racecourse to Burswood Casino, all above ground - even better idea, OK, that's my idea, but it would be a good one!

    Can't see how this could be bad for racing or for the proposed re-development at Belmont Racecourse. Punters could go to the races and then hike over the road to the footy for a night game! Win, Win! :lol:
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  • TiversTivers    7,720 posts
    MCG style walkway over the river a must !!!
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  • TheDivaTheDiva    13,248 posts
    Colin Barnett has called a 1.30pm press conference to confirm the report about the new stadium.
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  • TheDivaTheDiva    13,248 posts
    Colin Barnett has just confirmed a 60,000 seat stadium will be built at Burswood (expandable to 70,000).
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  • thefalconthefalcon    20,505 posts
    Packer must have come good.... :wink:

    Regardless, great concept, the advantages are boundless. As someone said, its a win-win for so many activities.
    Lets just hope the vocal minority don't hinder it...
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  • darkshinesdarkshines    2,837 posts
    The vocal minority - like most of the posters below the article on LL's link . . . .

    Fair dinks, imagine being them people, wake up each morning pretty much just pissed off with the world . . . . what are we gonna whinge about today.

    Remember hearing this debate on 6PR one morning, some clowns ringing in saying it (the stadium) was a waste of money, spend it on cultural things

    As pointed out by the panelists, if sport isn't Aussie 'culture', what is??????
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  • Unknown
    Im sure the CEO and everyone at PR will be pleased

    should greatly increase the value of the apartments they will be selling within the Belmont redevelopment
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  • TheDivaTheDiva    13,248 posts
    I think its a great result. If we can create a precinct like the MCG / Olympic park, within walking distance to the city, we're on a winner.

    One of the negatives with this site was the transport infrastructure in the area. I guess theres a lot to be done on that side of things at this stage.
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  • thefalconthefalcon    20,505 posts
    Matt, The folks of Perth MUST be educated to use public transport. We are addicted to cars, some of my mates have not been on a bus since school.
    Having lived in Sydney I am quite adept to public transport....eg if I am going to get on the singing syrup at Belmont, I'll get a train...less than 5 mins from central.
    The mayhem if everybody decided to drive to the new stadium does not bear thinking about... :?
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  • TheDivaTheDiva    13,248 posts
    Stadium to cost $700 mill which includes $30 mill of piling to overcome the site conditions.

    There is a special event station planned with 4 platforms. the aim is for 50-70% public transport and Tivers, theres a footbridge being built connecting it to East Perth.

    A further $300mill to be spent on public transport.

    All to be completed for the start of the 2018 AFL season, possibly earlier. (4 years in construction).

    Here's the fancy bit.....the stadium will have technology such that it can be lit in the home team's colours.

    Barnett says he will NOT as for a contribution from James Packer. He is hoping for some federal govt funding.
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  • LuckyLongshotsLuckyLongshots    4,270 posts
    Best pic I have seen of it so far - I presume the rectangular stadium will be on hold/in the future plans. (not sure how old this pic is)

    Personally don't think we need a massive rectangular stadium in Perth. NIB and Subiaco can easily service the crowds that the Glory and Western Force are getting, and they can always use the new stadium when they need that extra capacity.

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  • LuckyLongshotsLuckyLongshots    4,270 posts
    Media Release:

    Major new stadium to be built on Burswood Peninsula
    Portfolio: Premier, Sport and Recreation

    Premier Colin Barnett today announced Perth?s new multi-purpose stadium would be built on the Burswood Peninsula and is scheduled for completion in 2018.

    The new Perth Stadium will have the third-biggest capacity in Australia and will be the second largest AFL home stadium.

    It will have a capacity of 60,000 seats with provision for future expansion to 70,000 seats in the style of Melbourne's Etihad Stadium, with similar views, amenities and comfort.

    This capacity range will more than adequately provide for both members and corporate seating and generous general admission and visiting team supporters.

    ?Burswood Peninsula is unconstrained by surrounding development and Government-owned, which will allow us to achieve the vision of a world-class stadium precinct,? Mr Barnett said.

    ?The new stadium will be the centrepiece of an emerging eastside precinct at the gateway to Perth and is within walking distance of a range of potential transport options including footbridges, ferries, and trains.

    ?We want people going to the stadium for an event to catch public transport. The new Perth Stadium will deliver a high quality, state-of-the-art facility all West Australians can be proud of.

    ?To help us achieve this, there will be an international design competition to attract the best ideas.

    ?Together with the Perth Waterfront, the City Link, the Perth Cultural Centre, the Riverside Development, and the Perth Arena, a new stadium will enhance Perth?s reputation as a world-class city with a range of entertainment options.

    "The Liberal-National Government made the decision to build a new children's hospital before building a new stadium and we have set aside $505million for the new hospital."

    The 2011-12 State Budget allocated a total of $13million over two years for planning of the new stadium.

    The final cost will be determined after the design process has been completed. However, the current indicative cost for the stadium is approximately $700million, excluding costs associated with upgrades to transport infrastructure.

    The design will not include an underground carpark.

    Sport and Recreation Minister Terry Waldron said a steering committee would be established to oversee the project and will be co-chaired by the executive director of the Office of Strategic Projects Richard Mann and director general of the Department of Sport and Recreation (DSR) Ron Alexander.

    ?The committee?s first task will be to create a master plan for the stadium precinct, including a decision on the exact location and a detailed costing of the project,? Mr Waldron said.

    ?It will look at details such as possible retractable seating, adequate amenities, the style and size of seats and the allocation of seats to members, corporate, public and supporters of visiting teams.?

    The full steering committee members include Richard Mann (Department of Treasury, co-chair), Ron Alexander (DSR, co-chair), David Smith (Department of the Premier and Cabinet), Anne Nolan (Department of Finance), Eric Lumsden (Department of Planning), Reece Waldock (Department of Transport), Barry Sargeant (Burswood Park Board), a representative from the State Solicitors Office and an independent representative.

    ?The new stadium will be a true multi-purpose facility able to hold not only sporting events such as football and major international rugby, cricket and soccer games, but major cultural events such as concerts as well,? Mr Waldron said.

    ?We have consulted extensively with a wide range of stakeholders, including sporting organisations, the Town of Victoria Park and the City of Subiaco.?

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  • PrattyPratty    244 posts
    Surprised Barny didn't hit up Packer for a few bucks?

    :shock:
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  • PrecisionPrecision    295 posts
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    Surprised Barny didn't hit up Packer for a few bucks?

    :shock:

    He should too, the Casino will make a squillion out of this, imagine how rammed the Cas will be after a Friday/Saturday night match.
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  • TheFunksterTheFunkster    3,840 posts
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    said:

    Surprised Barny didn't hit up Packer for a few bucks?

    :shock:

    He should too, the Casino will make a squillion out of this, imagine how rammed the Cas will be after a Friday/Saturday night match.
    I'm sure the Lib Party coffers will see a sizeable donation :wink:
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  • GaryHGaryH    1,012 posts
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    Personally don't think we need a massive rectangular stadium in Perth. NIB and Subiaco can easily service the crowds that the Glory and Western Force are getting, and they can always use the new stadium when they need that extra capacity.

    Yep, and when the South Africa / England / Kiwi internation rugby games, or god forbid a big game of soccer are considered, then they can go to Melbourne.... Same short sited vision of a one sport state (oh, and racing :) )
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  • slipatiptomeslipatiptome    3,351 posts
    Spot on Gary H

    Footy Oval.. yeah perfect for Rugby & Soccer... No way. :evil: :evil:

    How much is the AFL contributing to the 700 Million?
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  • RodentRodent    7,476 posts
    What about the soon to be Perth Reds NRL team? They could use a rectangular stadium too.
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  • TheFunksterTheFunkster    3,840 posts
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    What about the soon to be Perth Reds NRL team? They could use a rectangular stadium too.

    NIB will be more than adequate for them.
    Imo I can't see them getting crowds of 20k on a regular basis.
    I'm not even sure why they are revisiting this, the Reds failed previously. Union seems to have a better following over here and I think they're struggling to break even.
    One-off League games get support, but that's about it.
    The Force & Reds will be competing for a lot of the same patrons, to the detriment of both.

    But I agree, we do need a dedicated rectangular stadium for the Glory, Force and the one-off events.
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  • RodentRodent    7,476 posts
    Having a team in Perth is about TV rights. NRL is great to watch on TV whereas AFL is better to watch live (so I'm told).
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  • Unknown
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    What about the soon to be Perth Reds NRL team? They could use a rectangular stadium too.

    Have a friend closely connected to Western Force, they are in huge trouble $ wise
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  • RodentRodent    7,476 posts
    The new TV rights deal will be massive for NRL so $ won't be a problem for Perth Reds.
    NRL rates through the roof. Even the Storm in Melbourne now rates higher than the Swans in Sydney. Rugby Union could only dream to rate as high as NRL. TV ratings is where the $ are.
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