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  • Unknown
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    great money riders:
    peter alphonsos o'loughlin
    jack ingram
    jack marshall
    bernie duggan
    george woods

    when the dosh was on these blokes rarely failed...
    a few of them were not "top echelon" but by God when the money was on....


    Jack Marshall - father of John Marshall who won the Melbourne Cup in 1999. Jack won the Bunbury Cup (I think) and John was born and bred in Perth but moved to Sydney to do his jockeys apprentiship. He won the Sydney Jockeys Premiership in 1986. Won 41 Group 1s in all and won a few Group 1s in Hong Kong. Rode Rogan Josh in the 1999 Melbourne Cup.

    Was Bart's stable jockey in the 1980s and had great success on one of Barts best - Beau Zam.


    Cheers,
    PC.
    started his apprenticeship with Ray Saw, his uncle also rode Phil D'Mello
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  • RexRex    406 posts
    Frank Treen used to tell me that when the money was on (Especialy O'loghens!) he was the hardest rider to beat that he ever rode against. it was a pity that he was killed in a road accident at 33 years of age while travelling to Bunbury with Ross Cherry to work Chez Felix in his final work before the Perth cup. Cherry was to ride the horse in the cup as Peter couldn't make the weight He was as good a rider as you would get.He lingered on for 5-6 months after the accident in a coma. I had a lot to do with him and could tell a few yarns about a few tricks he got up to. He used to ride at 7 stone 12 and was by no means a light weight jockey. I would like to know how many could ride at that weight now. His ride in the Perth cup on Fairs Print was a classic. He led until about the 1200 the let Glen Davies go round him and kidded until the corner then let go. He wasted and sweated for weeks for that ride (7 stone 8lbs) and was exhausted to the max afterwards. On the day of the race I can remember being in the sweat box with him at Chris Yaksich'es place in Meltham and he asked me to go home to his place in Rivervale and pick up his riding gear as he was having trouble loosing the last few ounces. When I returned to pick him up to go straight to the races he was unconcious in the sweat box,I thought he was dead. It all was worth it in the end as he won the cup. I remember one day at Belmont he rode and backed a horse for good money and an apprentice named Lee Smith rode in the same race. Lee's horse and Peters were fighting it out and the kids horse had the upper hand. Not to be beaten O'loghlen hit Lee till he was black and blue. To Lee's credit he never said boo, just copped it sweet which doesn't happen today.He was and still is a legend as far as I am concerned.

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  • everreadyeverready    282 posts
    the thred was well recived thanks some great jocks revived
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  • thefalconthefalcon    20,481 posts
    that should put pistol back in his box, rex... :P
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  • Unknown
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    that should put pistol back in his box, rex... :P

    sounds like a lovely bloke, should have got life. Facts are facts the bloke was just a better than average rider with very little between his ears

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  • thefalconthefalcon    20,481 posts
    did u know him personally, piston?
    nah..didn't think so.
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  • Unknown
    Does knowing someone personally make them a better rider? I'm sure there are heaps of good blokes who can't ride to save themselves
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  • RexRex    406 posts
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    that should put pistol back in his box, rex... :P

    sounds like a lovely bloke, should have got life. Facts are facts the bloke was just a better than average rider with very little between his ears
    If O'loghlen was just better than an average rider it doesn't say much for our top riders today, they would not be in the same class as him or the likes of tiger Moore,Frank Treen Peter Mckay, Keith Mifflin JJ Miller and the list goes on. Knowing him has nothing to do with it. Ask anyone who was around in that era including D.R Miller and see their response.
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  • Unknown
    edited November 2011
    said:

    said:

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    that should put pistol back in his box, rex... :P

    sounds like a lovely bloke, should have got life. Facts are facts the bloke was just a better than average rider with very little between his ears
    If O'loghlen was just better than an average rider it doesn't say much for our top riders today, they would not be in the same class as him or the likes of tiger Moore,Frank Treen Peter Mckay, Keith Mifflin JJ Miller and the list goes on. Knowing him has nothing to do with it. Ask anyone who was around in that era including D.R Miller and see their response.
    surely you are not putting O Loughlen in the above riders class,
    I have asked someone who rode with him, a above average rider was his reply

    As I said before he was never a leading jockey/rider until he pulled his irons up when Dettori came here, didnt make him any better just different. Still never went leading rider, anywhere but Albany.... What has todays riders got to do with his ability?
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  • Unknown
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    did u know him personally, piston?
    nah..didn't think so.

    think again, it's not something you do well :wink:
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  • VoodooVoodoo    1,369 posts
    said:

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    that should put pistol back in his box, rex... :P

    sounds like a lovely bloke, should have got life. Facts are facts the bloke was just a better than average rider with very little between his ears

    A bloody lot better riders have had a lot less between the ears also......


    cheers
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  • helmethelmet    50 posts
    Can anyone confirm that it was 10 years in a row 3 riders dominated the premiership? Kemp/ Albuino/ Sestich? I think Kemp won 4, Albuino and Ses 3 each not sure if that's 100% correct just going off memory...
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  • SLIPPERGOLDENSLIPPERGOLDEN    8,451 posts
    Keith Watson riding for George Way when the money was on.
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  • thefalconthefalcon    20,481 posts
    bozo the chimp could have won on them, slip... :x

    pistol, you seem to be all over the place about p o'l...now u reckon he was better than average.
    Note what Treen said about him....that sums it up.
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  • chocchoc    789 posts
    Ses & Brossy - two best of all time
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  • ShergarShergar    43 posts
    Glen Davies
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  • thefalconthefalcon    20,481 posts
    "The Ant"...nah, sorry.
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  • SLIPPERGOLDENSLIPPERGOLDEN    8,451 posts
    Glen Davies.... not for mine.. that's like claiming Melanie Griffith is a legendary actress.

    Having said that he did do me a huge favour at Belmont one day landing me a long priced double. He was a legend that day.
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  • VoodooVoodoo    1,369 posts
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    Glen Davies



    Asian Beau........ :roll: :roll: :roll:

    cheers
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  • thefalconthefalcon    20,481 posts
    asian beau?? mmmm...don't think so, but stand corrected..
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  • Unknown
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    asian beau?? mmmm...don't think so, but stand corrected..

    your corrected then
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  • LeglessLegless    5,108 posts
    "GD" won every major race in WA except the Derby. Won the Centenary Cup (100 yrs of racing in WA) on Kinder Myth in 1952. Rode Sydney James - backed from 100/1 into 66/1 to win the 1946 Perth Cup. Was not the stipes best mate tho :shock:
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  • thefalconthefalcon    20,481 posts
    he was the brewerys best mate tho.... :shock:
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  • Unknown
    The Asian Beau ride was one of the best money rides you will ever see. GD was a very good money rider, either way:wink:

    Falc, all over the place? a good rider is a wrap and an above average rider was something I was told, might be time to get new glasses ole fella, that is all over the place?, sound like 6 of one and 1/2 dozen of the other :wink:
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  • LeglessLegless    5,108 posts
    Was known as one of the top money riders. Rode amongst Eric Trefone, Bob Morley, Jack Marshall, Jack Ingram, Harry Mcleod, Len Fry, Tiger Moore, Treen and so on.
    If the money was on an "Ant" mount - get on and get in the queue :lol: :wink:
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  • Unknown
    money on GD would be 3rd the fence
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  • sirlancer01sirlancer01    10 posts
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    Who remembers an old jock over east NSW called Harry Troy bush rider rode till he was quite old another one from over there was Billy Aspros i think his wife trains now

    His wife trained for over 30 years, he had a bad fall at Bathurst, bleed from the ears and eyes, made a come back 2 years latter, his wife Leane left him, had another fall soon after his come back and passed away, was a top money rider, i knew them well and for a long time
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  • thebigcubanthebigcuban    4 posts
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    bozo the chimp could have won on them, slip... x
    falcon bozo the chimp may have won on them but regardless keith watson was a great money rider to frow a few more into the ring doug messingham and russel sterwart
    pistol, you seem to be all over the place about p o'l...now u reckon he was better than average.
    Note what Treen said about him....that sums it up.

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  • ColonelKurtzColonelKurtz    49 posts
    Rod Kemp
    John Wilson
    Ses had as much ability as anyone but got a little 'distracted' at times
    Mark Grigsby could ride
    JJ Miller rode for Bart which speaks for itself
    Jim Taylor
    Albie Smith
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  • Unknown
    no one would put more of their own on than Ses, the more he had on the better he rode
    Wilson was the opposite, the more the punter put on the better he was, if he had his own on they would get rolled, maybe why he very rarely had his own on
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