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If they have based it on conclusive vision and have irrefutuable evidence then surely they would have already released it and why deny interviews in regard to the decision after the race all of which would have cleared up the majority of the controversy surrounding this decision.
Guess why they haven't released this, because they don't have conclusive vision that supports or provide justification for their decision
The question still remains however, was the interference enough to cost LUCKYGRAY winning the race.
Had WS not have stumbled when it did (for whatever reason) He's Remarkable would still be looking for a way out off the rail.
He would not have been first past the post if he hadn't have got that perfect run at that exact moment.
It is a shame they won't contest the KT Classic, but that is their loss, HR has more chance winning the KT Classic than the Doncaster!
Had any one of those jockeys or horses behind HR been killed - we wouldn't be having this debate!
But it doesn't matter now, the tote has paid out
There is no way you or I anyone can argue that He's Remarkable doesnt get out the same way you cant know for sure that luckygray gets the same run through the field or that ranger doesnt get held up all of that is pure conjecture and you don't or shouldnt uphold protest in Groups 1's based upon conjecture and in the absence of conclusive vision that's exactly what they have done.
McEvoy never admitted in the inquiry that he caused or was responsible for that interference either.
Harvey 's trying to get elevated into the placings so he's not going to argue that the winner hasn't caused the interference either so that's hardly unbiased testimony if this had been a prosecutors case in court it would been laughed out of court.
It's done now - by the way how did Kincaple pull up (was a good run by him) big chance in the KT, on that run!
Trainers are deemed responsible for their horses even in their absence, yet we're supposed to just cop what was served up on Saturday in a Group 1 event with millions resting on the outcome of that decision.
The whole affair was at best, amateurish.
I fail to see why the industry consistently refuses to demand the same standards of accountability from officials as these same officials demand from the industry.
I hope so but others may be happy that she didn't.
Mary, can you give us conclusive evidence that you washed your knickers today ?
I am not convinced that I saw your knickers on the line. I saw something on the clothes line but I am not sure they were your knickers.
Mary, I think you had better let everyone look at the knickers you are wearing now and we can judge.
But alas, can we be convinced they are the knickers you were expected to wash.
We expect professionalism Mary. Wash those knickers immediately and then we can judge and we will be the jury and we will of course be the executioner.
I must be watching a different video because immediately the interference has occurred and straight after the interference McEvoy and He's remarkable are in exactly the same the postion they were prior to the interference he doesnt do the old Malcolm Johnston trick look out boys I'm out of here and just gone bang and knocked everyone for six.
Waratah's Secret of course has never over reacted and raced erratically during its career either please, the horse has a history of racing erratically and harvey sure as hell isnt goign to blame himslef or the horse jsut as marco isnt going to blame himself or his horse.
Mc evoy has been a victim of some shocking falls himslef I seriously doubt he's going to deliberately endanger the lives of other by rding overtly aggressively in that sort of situation. No one has yet been able to offer a suitable explanation if McEvoy is responsible for this carnage why is he still in exactly same spot both prior to and after the interference if he's pushed out he would have kept going once the gap was there and he didn't.
Again the bigger question now is and I raised this earlier why with the technology available today at probably the most important vantage point where it is desperately needed do we have to put up with such poor quality vision.
Well done Mary
He was arguing exactly the same point yesterday that I've been arguing from the outset and that is that based upon the available video evidence there is no way known that protest coild be upheld for indirect interference, he also labelled the stewards decision disgraceful.
I also consider myself to be a fairly astute race analyst, I have to be otherwise my monthly bills don't get paid and until I see some video evidence that provides some semblance of proof that McEvoy caused the resulting carnage then as far I'm concerned it was a grossly incorrrect decision to uphold that protest and worse still the consequences of this decision will be enormous.
I reckon I have some idea on racing, albeit only a limited knowledge, and I believe that on what I saw and what the stewards saw they made the right decision.
Did He's Remarkable deserve to win after that ride. I don't think so.
It could have caused a dreadful fall. It almost did as Waratah's Secret just about came down.
The jockeys were warned beforehand and we had one of the best in the business that erred.
Is that the harvey keitel wolf from Pulp fiction or the wolf from Little Red Riding Hood that Mary was riding?
It does put things in a different light for me, but only to the extent that I can see where McEvoy moves away from the fence approaching the 600M point but before they hit the camber. Chui holds his line which gives Waratah's Secret some tightening. But the real problem is when they hit the camber, McEvoy follows the curve from his new position, but Chui comes across his line on a more acute angle completing the squeeze of Paul Harvey on WS. They were running on different lines in my opinion, Chui's line on Big Ted was cutting the corner off or coming back on top of WS. At this point WS then fell back on top of Ranger. Chui looks behind at the carnage and McEvoy says thank you very much and moves off the rails to the outside of the leading four runners.
Previously I thought McEvoy had no case to answer, now I see that he contributed to the interference, however I think Chui on Big Ted slammed the door.
In the years ahead, we may look back on this race as one for the dinner table discussion, I still think that most of the table will be divided on what should have happened.
cheers
No doubt there are amatuerish aspects of even the most elite level of racing in this country (BC barrier move in Vic = farce). But WA just seems to balls it up FAR more often than others (Mendicity 3rd dead heat, was there even an enquiry into that?).
Said it before and will say it again, with junk like this, WA racing will only ever be taken seriously by local stakeholders. To everyone else, it is a novel amusement where strange things can happen . . .
Even though I don't agree with it, I do have sympathy with Luckygray's connections. Unless they do some photo shopping, the winning photo will always have another horse in front of it. That is a shame.
As an owner, my winning photos are my pride and joy. The winning photo isn't going to show the owners leading the horse in, or Shaun saluting on top of the horse.
The connections have the dosh and the trophy... and plenty of other photos of the horse winning. No sympathy required.