Jockey bootcamp

TheDiva · February 2013

another video from RWWA

motivated · February 2013

How about teaching them to steer and read a race, be polished when attending meetings, and act like professional sportspeople. Teach them to stop knocking anyone and everyone down, and be balanced, polished and poised on a horse, to be patient......realise they are kids but the form of most apprentices the last few weeks has been awful at best...(exceptions to A.Mitchell and Ms J.Noske).....

sensei · February 2013

Throw your hat in the ring Motivated.

It seems to me that you have a lot to give and could make a difference.

raconteur · February 2013

...got to agree with Motiv8d.....they get a claim to compensate for initial lack of ability, but their general level of poor riding through:
* causing interference
* lack of pace judgement
* inability to read the race as it unfolds
* too quickly resorting to whip usage,
identifies that there is a decided lack of properly monitored tutelage and a significant lack ofquality review of performances.
There is some talent out there but, like young horses - the apprentices need educating, assistance and less pressure put to bear until they are well up to it .

SPUDLEY · February 2013

All looks good but who is teaching them race riding all their current teachers were not elite jocks ( no offence intended) but does Harvey or Pike or maybe Sestich come in to teach them tactics.

raconteur · February 2013

no and no and no - that is what the problem is !!!

goose · February 2013

The best or most talented dont necessarily make the best coaches in any field they can only make up so much for a lack of experience.

motivated · February 2013

Faithfull is a great example, without wanting to be a personal attack on one individual, but surely when you put a jockey on the deck less than 6 weeks ago, to come out and almost cause another to fall yesterday (s.parnham) then drift out the whole way up the straight without any thought of straightening her mount.....serious questions need to be raised...as a jockey in a previous life, all jockeys need to understand that unwritten etiquette and code of behaviour that is we all want to get home safely......this unnecessary risk these kids are putting the rest few must stop before something more serious happens.

BobbyDavis · February 2013

motivated said:
Faithfull is a great example, without wanting to be a personal attack on one individual, but surely when you put a jockey on the deck less than 6 weeks ago, to come out and almost cause another to fall yesterday (s.parnham) then drift out the whole way up the straight without any thought of straightening her mount.....serious questions need to be raised...as a jockey in a previous life, all jockeys need to understand that unwritten etiquette and code of behaviour that is we all want to get home safely......this unnecessary risk these kids are putting the rest few must stop before something more serious happens.

Absolutely couldn't agree more Motivated.

Severedheads · February 2013

Every time they do something stupid like this they should get taken down to shenton park and meet some not so fortunate people in wheelchairs...

Radman · February 2013

Bobby Davis said:

motivated said:
Faithfull is a great example, without wanting to be a personal attack on one individual, but surely when you put a jockey on the deck less than 6 weeks ago, to come out and almost cause another to fall yesterday (s.parnham) then drift out the whole way up the straight without any thought of straightening her mount.....serious questions need to be raised...as a jockey in a previous life, all jockeys need to understand that unwritten etiquette and code of behaviour that is we all want to get home safely......this unnecessary risk these kids are putting the rest few must stop before something more serious happens.
Absolutely couldn't agree more Motivated.

I couldn't agree more with Bobby Davis, who couldn't agree more with motivated.

Radman · February 2013

And now I agree with Severedheads too....

RIO · February 2013

Radman said:
And now I agree with Severedheads too....

i hear you radman...couldn't agree more???...but you do appear to be trying

As posted on the Pinjarra one..i hope she gets the help she needs

raconteur · February 2013

and I agree with ...well ditto, ditto, ditto.

dungy · February 2013

Likewise ,how about teaching them to sit on properly and have respect in running for fellow riders as to many of them seem to be re offending

Piston_Broke · February 2013

it's obvious to everyone bar the people in charge, the present system is not working, J C , J H and L M need to be in control,

thefalcon · February 2013

i'd give the little cow 6 months!!

RIO · February 2013

the falcon said:
i'd give the little cow 6 months!!

are you suggesting to give @Brunswick_cow 6 months to sort her out??? :-))

To be serious for a moment, if she only gets 16 day holidays when she does this sort of thing, she can probably survive pretty well as is..It's nearly like a 2 x 2 FIFO...the same style we are talking about does get her a good share of winners

dungy · February 2013

the falcon said:
i'd give the little cow 6 months!!

Thats a tad harsh me old mate

Radman · February 2013

the falcon said:
i'd give the little cow 6 months!!

She should join the Japanese Air Force, they could use pilots of her ability

RIO · February 2013

You guys are being tough on her again..yes she has some dangerous habits, but she is an apprentice..I have watched a few of her rides now and she has a steely - read damn dangerous at times - focus forward..Nearly every other Jock I watch has a glance this way or that way and she doesn't..

Maybe she has tunnel vision or has never been told to have a look???

Surely that is an education thing???

Radman · February 2013

It's a fundamental floor in her personality in my opinion, she just doesn't give a stuff about the other jocks out there.

Some people never change, I could name some jocks in their 40s with a similar philosophy that shouldn't be in the game either.

The game is too dangerous to put up with idiots like this.

BroomeCup4Ever · February 2013

I'm just filthy that the protest wasn't upheld, I had a nice collect coming my way on the 2nd horse. I didn't see the race but from where I was listening surely the result should have been upheld.... margin was a head, margin in my pocket was a couple of thousand :((

AndrewCarter · February 2013

Radman before you start knocking anyone for fundamental floors (as you put it), maybe try using the correct word it's flaw not floor. It's not he first time you've used that term incorrectly either.

raconteur · February 2013

RIO just love the 2x2 FIFO analogy - only one small difference with her 2x2 - not many FIFO workers maim their workmates in their 2 weeks on !!

Pist'Br - " , J C , J H and L M need to be in control, " - I was under the impression that they WERE incharge of riding things - all the education and stuff.
Having apprentices with masters ( what are we supposed to call them ) who can't /don't / won't or didn't ride is not clever - a bollocking from Louie, Nifty, must be more believable than one from a "non rider" master ( or what ever they are called).

Piston_Broke · February 2013

Rac, I am of the understanding R Fleming and C Vickers are the major players. I can clearly remember L M being told at the races one day by an apprentice he was changing bosses, L M had no idea of it as it was being organized by one of the above, now what R F or C V would know about race riding or even what the daily routine of an apprentice would/should entail is minimal at best

RIO · February 2013

A long, long time ago in a place far, far away..not quite, but when I did my apprenticeship, we had a master..He was in control of our current and future work load and he looked after our best interests whilst trying to wring as much out of us for as little money as possible..We had many trades people we learnt from, but only the one master..called a Master of Apprentices

Apart from the person they are indentured too, I’d suggest there should only ever be one Master and to have 2 or 3 or?? that they can go to, only confuses the young ones..I'd suggest that all the people that you mention PB have other functions that they have to do on a daily basis...the master should do nothing but look after the apprentices interests...Bit like the safety posts a few months back...Put soemONE in charge and make them accountable for getting it sorted..Properly.

The days of multi tasking and filling in these sort of roles are long gone in the better managed organisations. It’d be better to have a part time position that focuses on that role, than a full time position looking after them and other things as well.

Rodent · February 2013

BroomeCup4Ever said:
I'm just filthy that the protest wasn't upheld, I had a nice collect coming my way on the 2nd horse. I didn't see the race but from where I was listening surely the result should have been upheld.... margin was a head, margin in my pocket was a couple of thousand :((

I got your couple of thousand. I was worried about that protest. I didn't see a head on but the initial interference looked like it was 50/50 as the runner up was hanging in as Tuff As Rust was running out. The interference late wasn't enough on its own in my view.
You were dead set unlucky as with no interference the 2nd horse wins.

hash · February 2013

maybe the should follow in NSW's shoes and send them back to riding school....
quote from Racenet - Apprentice Jenny Duggan has been referred to the Racing NSW Riding Skills Panel for mentoring after stewards took exception to her judgement aboard Falklands in the Nags Head Hotel Glebe Handicap (1600m) at Warwick Farm last Saturday.

Stewards opened an inquiry into the ride following the race when they alleged the pair set a tempo that was "1.5 seconds faster than the average" for the first 1000 metres of mile races at Warwick Farm on a slow or heavy track.

After further evidence was taken on Tuesday stewards elected not to issue any charges but "under the powers of AR92A” sent Duggan back to the Riding Skills Panel for further training.

"The stewards, upon consideration of all the evidence, were concerned at the judgement exercised by apprentice Duggan in racing up on terms with the leader Hardbreak Hotel from the 1000 metres, then riding her horse along from the 800 metres whereby Falklands was a beaten horse on the home turn,” a stewards' statement read.

Radman · February 2013

Andrew Carter said:
Radman before you start knocking anyone for fundamental floors (as you put it), maybe try using the correct word it's flaw not floor. It's not he first time you've used that term incorrectly either.

....And so speaketh the holy one. Defender of all things indefensible

IntoIt · February 2013

=))
But seriously, send them to pony club for horsemanship, riding no reins, stirrups,gymnastics on horseback, dressage etc. Imagine them on the freeway! crash, bash, out of my way. Would'nt have thought Natashas boss, Steve Wolfe letting her ride badly without consequences.

G'day Punter!

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