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Super Saturday 23 Nov 2013

West Australian Racing

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  • TheDivaTheDiva    13,248 posts
    I'd have thought $6 was keeping it safe. Petrol Power is no slouch, although it hasnt won in a while. 
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  • darkshinesdarkshines    2,837 posts
    Rogue_Green said:

    I dont think we will be seeing under $10 Sujet. Surely the race experience has to come through in that race. A few decent horses who have had a good handful of starts.

    If Sujet beats this lot then its clearly a decent horse.



    LOL

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  • DamienWyerDamienWyer    7,984 posts
    edited November 2013
    Petrol Power had been aimed at a start in The Guineas. The only doubt is if this may have flattened him or hopefully he can return with some zip over the shorter course. He didn't see out the 1400M in my opinion but the experiment had some merit. I think he will be too strong for this field and provided that he is not taken back through the field by something trying to find the front from out wide, he will win. His longterm goals will be short course sprints and as a 4yo & 5yo he will be a force to contend with over this distance.

    If Sujet can get close that will be a very good performance. But trials are very different to Racing.
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  • obrienrbobrienrb    630 posts
    edited November 2013
    Elite belle onto petrol power....$$$

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  • LeglessLegless    5,108 posts
    May also just be another winner of a 2 year old race that promises plenty and delivers zilch.

    Will find out on saturday - Ill be keeping an eye on the fillies whilst this lot trundle around ;)
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  • DownbythepalmsDownbythepalms    381 posts
    obrienrb said:

    Elite belle onto petrol power....$$$

    Into Rohan!!!!

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  • ICEICE    683 posts
    Just gives us a nice price :)


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  • Rogue_GreenRogue_Green    294 posts
    darkshines said:

    Rogue_Green said:

    I dont think we will be seeing under $10 Sujet. Surely the race experience has to come through in that race. A few decent horses who have had a good handful of starts.

    If Sujet beats this lot then its clearly a decent horse.



    LOL

    and thats why im a foolish punter and not a bookie!
    Although i may be proven right if it gets beat. So much value for other runners due to the price of Sujet. And as we have seen lately, the Miller plunges are coming off less and less. I remember when he first came here, when he plunged it won. Now its more unlikely than likely.
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  • PuntingTragicPuntingTragic    1,141 posts
    Gee Sujet no good thing does make value for the form runners

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  • H-BOMBERH-BOMBER    10,567 posts
    Good luck all today!

    Ihtsahym, Buffering and Playing God in the big three for me.

    Outside of that I have Maximus Mak, Pin Rouge, Super 88, Mystic Prince, Baleen in Me and King of the palace, although i have a feeling about General Albert winning the last at massive odds.

    See you out there!

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  • TesseractTesseract    61 posts
    Does anyone think ive got a chance of getting a carpark if i arrive there after the first race ??
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  • TheFunksterTheFunkster    3,840 posts
    Tesseract said:

    Does anyone think ive got a chance of getting a carpark if i arrive there after the first race ??

    Yep
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  • TesseractTesseract    61 posts
    The Funkster said:

    Tesseract said:

    Does anyone think ive got a chance of getting a carpark if i arrive there after the first race ??

    Yep
    sweet.
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  • therealkramertherealkramer    8,008 posts
    The Diva said:

    Sujet $4 into $2.80 as soon as markets were posted.  :-B



    someone is taking the p*ss! 
    Centrebet allegedly took a $3k bet @ 4.00 so if it's legit that would explain the betting move. Does have Douglas Whyte to guide it too
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  • bookieloverbookielover    2,709 posts
    I'm not having a go at all here, just making an observation.

    Centrebet owned by one of "the worlds biggest bookmakers" take a 3 grand bet on a $4.00, 3/1 chance and turn it into $2.80, 7/4 in the old. The bet is $9,000/3,000. not a big bet you would think for such a "huge" bookmaking firm.

    I enjoy reading articles about old time bookies in the halcyon years of bookmaking, and the comparisons with what bookmakers would bet punters in those years compared to today, makes fascinating reading. For me, anyway.

    I was reading some articles about the biggest bookie in Sydney from 1941 until 1956 called Ken Ranger. Bill Waterhouse speaks of him with real awe in his book.

    Ranger died a relatively young man having suffered from heart problems that today would have been fixed with a bypass or two. In 1952 he held 2.5 million pounds for the year, when you could buy a decent house in Sydney for 3,000 pounds. That's the equivalent of around 820 houses. Assuming the house is worth around 800 grand today, and I'm probably being conservative, that would make his hold in today's terms, 656 million dollars.

    On Metropolitan day in 1952, he laid two individual bets against the 2/1 favourite in the shorts as it is still called today, of 8,000/4000 That meant that two punters had the equivalent of the cost of a house to win two houses. Try doing that today.

    These big Corps talk about the million dollar bets they take and how much they lay against horses. What is interesting Realkramer as that you even questioned the legitimacy of the $3,000 bet. 
    :))
    I actually don't need to go back 60 years, to make my point. 30 years ago, you could walk up to virtually every rails bookie in Melbourne, and they would bet you at 3/1 10,000/3,300 without blinking, and if they didn't like the horse, they would ask you if you wanted it again.

    I know and accept that times have changed, and what was is no more and just how hard it is to get on today for any decent money, except in Melbourne and Sydney at carnival times.

    Don't get me wrong, 3 grand will buy you and the missus/girlfriend/boyfriend a reasonable holiday, and 9 grand an even better one. 

    But in the scheme of things compared to not really that long ago, on the biggest day of racing in WA, the fact that Centrebet would even bother to publicise a $3,000 bet on a 3/1 chance, shows you to what level betting in this country has generally deteriorated compared to days gone by.

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  • RhinoRhino    208 posts
    twitter reporting Harvey is sick and unlikely to ride today
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  • squid69squid69    1,434 posts
    Rhino said:

    twitter reporting Harvey is sick and unlikely to ride today

    Yep, crook guts, much like Mailman obviously feels after the first
    :D
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  • RhinoRhino    208 posts
    whyte on gn in railway

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  • thefalconthefalcon    20,481 posts

    those bods that backed barakey around the 4, 4.80 mark must be spewing...7's on tabt until 1 pm or the 125k limit is reached.

    do the bookies know something....

    :-w
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  • LuckyLongshotsLuckyLongshots    4,270 posts
    edited November 2013
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    Rhino said:

    whyte on gn in railway

    What a replacement - GN a good chance in the Railway!
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  • DamienWyerDamienWyer    7,984 posts
    Petrol Power !!!!!

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  • rot8inrot8in    1,881 posts
    edited November 2013
    how good was that..definitely opted for the right race..well done Damien on finding him at the sales 

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  • careycarey    6,424 posts
    i'm guessing rick is pleased today.
    especially after that cut up job last time.
    must have got a lovely price too!
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  • squid69squid69    1,434 posts
    TK Turner may get some time after looking at that head on, took out a couple late....

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  • Piston_BrokePiston_Broke    2,047 posts
    edited November 2013
    What the hell is Camilleri wanting to look at the film for? 

    Took out 1
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  • BondyjnrBondyjnr    1,899 posts
    RIO said:


    RIO said:

    Seemed to me that Baleen In Me was most interfered with. But was never going to get the winner

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  • Piston_BrokePiston_Broke    2,047 posts
    Baleen in Me was very minor, the one in red got crunched right on the Line, Ejays Girl never got involved
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  • squid69squid69    1,434 posts
    That was a brave win by Buffering. Did so much work, pressured inside and outside, was a sitting shot but got his head down when it counted.

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  • rot8inrot8in    1,881 posts
    Im a little concernd for Barakey..hope those hind legs are ok. 
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  • Thoroly_BreadThoroly_Bread    2,348 posts
    Very tough Barakey and Power Princess were both very disappointing sad day for me

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