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Puffer in trouble

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BobbyDavisBobbyDavis    916 posts
edited March 2014 West Australian Racing

I wonder who the fall guy will be this time?

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  • RIORIO    14,902 posts
    Would need a bit more info to read too much into that...but certainly doesn't sound ideal..
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  • GaryHGaryH    1,012 posts

    Did thy check down everyone's pants? :-/

    With all seriousness, this one's a little bit different.  No one saw the giving of an injection, or equipment to do so.  And the vet was right to note the swelling, and blood.  As such, the only way to proceed is to withdraw the horse to keep the integrity of racing. 

    But I doubt there will be any penalties to the stable, apart from having they're horse withdrawn from a winnable race?  UNLESS they find something in the system.  But who's that silly.

    Stewards Report

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  • JayJayJayJay    8,623 posts
    Blood present?? If it was injected prior to race day, must have been a hell of an injection. And if it was bleeding prior to departure from the stable, why take it to the course? Hmm....all conjecture of course but I think the heading of this thread says it all ......in trouble!!!
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  • Nator009Nator009    42 posts
    Same persons involved same penalty
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  • RodentRodent    7,470 posts
    edited March 2014
    Obviously just grazed its jugular in the float  =))

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  • G-MacG-Mac    1,677 posts
    Another trotting trainer led astray by the seedy world of thoroughbred racing

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  • DarkhorseDarkhorse    666 posts
    Rodent said:

    Obviously just grazed its jugular in the float  =))


    It may have been one of those jugular flies that bit it, as now they don't use their home-made fly repellent.

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  • Thoroly_BreadThoroly_Bread    2,348 posts
    http://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/sport/racing/a/21844731/puncture-sparks-raid-by-stewards/

    How unlucky could you be getting into trouble due to stable hands not knowing what they are doing twice in 6 months.

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  • thefalconthefalcon    20,481 posts
    try under 4 months... 8-}

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  • DarkhorseDarkhorse    666 posts
    Damn unlucky, must have run over a chinaman.

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  • DarkhorseDarkhorse    666 posts
    Extraordinary quiet on this thread, 
    From memory there was a large amount of unwarranted and biased stable support , where are they now?
    And before they jump on the bandwagon I am sure that nothing will come of this, possibly just an overcautious knee-jerk reaction from the stewards. Nothing wrong with that better to be safe than sorry.

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  • thefalconthefalcon    20,481 posts

    wonder how dyson is filling in his time?

    car detailing at bobs showroms??

    :-\"

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  • RIORIO    14,902 posts

    agree 100% with you DH...The stewards played a very straight bat, if it was nothing you think that maybe the stable foreman would have been able to tell them what had happened. If there is no way to prove anything happened, then it is really hard(read impossible) for the stewards to do anymore than they have.

    As a regular commentator on the conspiracy theories, this is all I wanted from our stewards. Great work by the vet to notice it and to bring it to the attention of the stewards...Whatever happens from here on is relatively unimportant.. Its the looking and observing part that is so important. Well to me anyway.

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  • coppercopper    9 posts
    If the stewards don't find anything then really what action can be taken? It proves the Williams stables innocence.

    If nothing is found and if I were the owner I would be taking action upon rwwa. Scratching a horse on the motion of a "6th sense" that the horse has been treated on course. That leaves them accountable for defamation does it not?
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  • TheDivaTheDiva    13,248 posts
    edited March 2014
    There is a precedent here with that case over in Melbourne with Robert Smerdon. There will be no action against RWWA and no defamation case. The stewards have the power to scratch under these circumstances, just like they have the power to scratch if they find a horse to be lame. 
    Lets wait for the inquiry on this one before making too many inflamatory statements.



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  • IntoItIntoIt    659 posts
    Still have to explain a seemingly obvious injection site. in a way i hope something does show otherwise what might have occurred and is undectectable. Level playing  field please.
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  • theketaminekidtheketaminekid    479 posts
    Thoroly_Bread said:

    http://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/sport/racing/a/21844731/puncture-sparks-raid-by-stewards/



    How unlucky could you be getting into trouble due to stable hands not knowing what they are doing twice in 6 months.
    Considering the bloke was on the other side of the country this time should be a good enough excuse however, I think this time the stewards are not going to cop it. Will be interesting to see how it plays out.

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  • DamienWyerDamienWyer    7,984 posts
    edited March 2014
    the falcon said:

    wonder how dyson is filling in his time?

    car detailing at bobs showroms??

    :-\"
    If he was would it matter ?

    Paul has financial commitments like all of us. He has a family as well.

    A six month term for that offence was akin to a $40,000 penalty by my estimate, and that is just a guess I certainly would have to seek alternative arrangements outside of Racing if such a thing was imposed on me, if I was a licensed person.

    Since his suspension, to the best of my knowledge, Paul has done nothing to discredit Racing. His reaction to the suspension was dignified.

    So let's just cut him a bit of slack.




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  • Thoroly_BreadThoroly_Bread    2,348 posts
    copper said:

    If the stewards don't find anything then really what action can be taken? It proves the Williams stables innocence.

    If nothing is found and if I were the owner I would be taking action upon rwwa. Scratching a horse on the motion of a "6th sense" that the horse has been treated on course. That leaves them accountable for defamation does it not?

    Oh dear of course it does  8-} The treatment might not come up in a sample but the rules are no treatment on the day of the race witch there was clear evidence of according to the report.

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  • coppercopper    9 posts
    Please highlight where there is evidence? There is none.
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  • Thoroly_BreadThoroly_Bread    2,348 posts
    Why was the horse withdrawn from the race?

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  • primemoverprimemover    141 posts
    Dah!!! Copper,maybe the horse leant over a barbed wire fence,and pricked itself!!!

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  • JustanLJustanL    356 posts
    How long does it take blood to dry??.

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  • RIORIO    14,902 posts
    In some stable several days I've been told

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  • Piston_BrokePiston_Broke    2,047 posts
    edited March 2014
    The bloke in Melb got 6 months I think Happy Trails, seems to be much the same scenario

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  • FastmoneyFastmoney    4,912 posts
    Piston_Broke said:

    The bloke in Melb got 6 months I think Happy Trails, seems to be much the same scenario

    http://www.news.com.au/sport/superracing/trainer-paul-beshara-found-guilty-of-raceday-treatment-happy-grails/story-fndpqu3p-1226742312365
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  • dungydungy    9,278 posts
    G-Mac said:

    Another trotting trainer led astray by the seedy world of thoroughbred racing

    Speaking of trotting I hear Chopper Mark  Read is back next week as a driver only wont be training and wont be going back to the gallops in any hurry im told not that they would welcome him back with open arms
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  • G-MacG-Mac    1,677 posts
    dungy said:


    G-Mac said:

    Another trotting trainer led astray by the seedy world of thoroughbred racing

    Speaking of trotting I hear Chopper Mark  Read is back next week as a driver only wont be training and wont be going back to the gallops in any hurry im told not that they would welcome him back with open arms
    I thought he wasn't due back until November 2014
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  • smokeysmokey    6 posts
    edited March 2014
    Have our labs started testing for Cobalt yet?
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  • RonaldMcdonaldRonaldMcdonald    10 posts
    He will be fine, good fella

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