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Thoroughbred – Stewards Inquiry- TWO SILVER TREES Narrogin Tuesday 26 January 2016 Race 3, the THONG

West Australian Racing
Stewards today completed the adjourned inquiry into Jockey Paul Harvey’s handling of TWO SILVER TREES over the final 400m of the above race. Further evidence was taken from Mr. P. Harvey and the Trainer of TWO SILVER TREES, Mr L Smith.
Mr Harvey was specifically questioned in relation to the reason for him electing to take TWO SILVER TREES to the inside of JUST BUBBLES (Jerry Noske) prior to straightening resulting in it then becoming held up for clear running rather than shifting TWO SILVER TREES to the outside of JUST BUBBLES.
Mr Harvey explained that TWO SILVER TREES was having its first race start and was not travelling strongly prior to straightening necessitating him to urge the filly along through that section of the race in order to remain in contact with JUST BUBBLES and consequently he was reluctant to take the filly wider on the track at that time as he was of the opinion that it may become unbalanced and forced to cover extra ground and he therefore believed his best option was to attempt to save ground and improve through the field.
Trainer L Smith agreed with the remarks of Jockey P Harvey and was also of the same view that TWO SILVER TREES was not travelling strongly prior to entering the straight and he was satisfied with his actions and decisions at that point of the race.
Stewards were of the opinion that Mr Harvey had erred in not shifting TWO SILVER TREES wider on the track on straightening, however in all of the circumstances did not believe the level of his error to be sufficiently blameworthy to attract the provisions of AR 135 (b) which requires a rider to take all reasonable and permissible measures throughout the race to ensure his mount is given full opportunity to win or obtain the best possible placing.
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  • jumjum    3,582 posts
    edited February 2016
    :-O :-O   Not travelling strongly. =)) . The horse was under a tight reign and Bolting.

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  • DarkhorseDarkhorse    666 posts
    It leaves me cold that they did not see the same race as me.
    Would have liked them to send the evidence and film to Hong Kong for their Stewards to evaluate.
    Another slap in the face for Western Australian racing.
  • paraleticparaletic    3,750 posts
    absolute f**king joke!
  • BobbyDavisBobbyDavis    916 posts
    Definitely would've got time in many other racing jurisdictions. OR if John Schreck was in town.
  • TheDivaTheDiva    13,248 posts
    I think it was a mistake. Lots of horses dont travel well up that hill round the bend. You see it a lot at Narrogin and horses find their second wind when its too late after they've balanced up in the straight. 
    I think The Pont believed his horse was going no good, saved ground to come up the inside and probably finish a few lengths behind them. But that horse seriously found the bit just after straightening, at which time there was no room to come through. 
    Definitely should have come to the outside coming round the bend. Lets face it.. .if the horse wasnt travelling and wasnt going to win, whats the big deal in losing a couple of lengths coming wide at the turn. 

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  • ColourfulRDColourfulRD    480 posts
    You shouldn't get time for making a mistake.

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  • jumjum    3,582 posts
    edited February 2016

    Where once in that race was the horse not travelling. Not once did the Pont shake the reins or  put the stick on the horse. Not once, when they jumped, Not once, when he could have got a couple of lengths closer and not be sitting three wide at the 600 and Not once before the corner.

    I'm no Jock but I have watched enough races to know when a horse is not travelling you try and urge it along a little bit by riding more vigorously or you put one on his rump.

    As I stated before I genuinely believe if that was a group race worth $200,000 that horse wins by 3 eased down against that same field on that same track.

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  • H-BOMBERH-BOMBER    10,567 posts
    That field wouldnt be out of place in group races here ;))

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  • RodentRodent    7,472 posts
    If the horse wasn't travelling, how about proving it by hunting it along? Sitting there like a statue proves nothing. Are we at the stage where we have to just take the jockey's word for it?
  • RIORIO    14,902 posts
    RWWA seem to think that's good enough...........
  • thefalconthefalcon    20,495 posts
    its done and dusted boys...forget it.

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  • RIORIO    14,902 posts

    You shouldn't get time for making a mistake.

    as long as the punter is protected....and every horse has been given a fair chance of winning.

    After watching it again. The punter was screwed and the horse was given no chance.

    It said nothing in the report about investigating betting trends or anything, but you'd just assume the mice would do that...wouldn't they?????

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  • thefalconthefalcon    20,495 posts
    can they read?
  • JustanLJustanL    356 posts
    ^^^ Brail?

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  • hashhash    7,495 posts
    edited February 2016

    Bit off topic but some news out of Sydney from today's meeting....... I had a chuckle at the comment where the trainer says "I even made him Bjorn’s Best on Twitter this morning" as if that's going to get the stewards to think any different because he's publically tipped his horse to win

    Stewards have opened an inquiry into the defeat of a beaten favourite at Canterbury, saying they are worried about betting trends on the race.

    In-form stayer Mr Steal eased from $3.20 to $4.20 before finishing third in the TAB.com.au Handicap.

    Ridden by Hugh Bowman, Mr Steal settled outside the leader Springbok Flyer and looked certain to miss a place before getting his second wind.

    He finished almost five lengths from the winner Springbok Flyer.

    Mr Steal went into the race as an all-the-way winner over 1900m and last-start runner-up at Randwick when beaten in a photo finish.

    After asking trainer Bjorn Baker why Mr Steal didn’t lead, stewards said betting patterns on Wednesday’s event needed further examination.

    “I have to say the betting is a little concern,” acting chief steward Marc Van Gestel told Baker.

    “The horse has traded quite widely on the (betting) exchange.”

    Baker told the inquiry he thought Mr Steal might have been vulnerable over the extended distance and was reluctant to tell Bowman to take up the running.

    “I wish I did say lead at all costs but I had it in my mind that it was 2700 metres,” Baker said.

    Baker said he thought Mr Steal would run well after finding form at his past two starts.

    “I even made him Bjorn’s Best on Twitter this morning and that has a very good record for my followers,” he said.

    The inquiry has been adjourned to allow stewards to further analyse betting sheets

    https://www.justhorseracing.com.au/news/australian-racing/stewards-to-probe-mr-steal-betting/313159

     

     

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