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desertharrydesertharry    62 posts
West Australian Racing
Much  improved  Jockey  who  has  shown  the  benefit  of  stint  in  Singapore.
Sits  very   well  &  has  good  " hands &  heels "  style . 
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P Harvey  is  49 , J Whiting  45  - look  out  for  J  Azzopardi  over  next  few  years .
Might  not  be  in  same  class  as  W Pike , C Parnham  but  will  certainly  be  on  ' the  up '  as  P  Carberry ,  T  Turner  etc  go  into  the  veteran  category .
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  • ThunderstruckThunderstruck    7,696 posts
    No disrespect to the last two mentioned but Joey has them covered comfortably, is in the top 3 to 4 steerers in WA imo.

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  • hashhash    7,495 posts
    Pike

    Harvey

    Noske, Joey & O’Donnell in no particular order for 3rd, 4th & 5th... I doubt there’d be many that disagree with that top 5
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  • Ridersonthestorm33Ridersonthestorm33    10,951 posts
    edited March 2020
    Think you mean Chris Parnham there hash.

    My fave and best hoop's - the one that gave me my last collect.
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  • Ridersonthestorm33Ridersonthestorm33    10,951 posts
    edited March 2020
    Even the best can occasionally ride shockers - but it's no different to Steve Smith making a duck, or Pendlebury playing a quiet game - it happens.
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  • Ridersonthestorm33Ridersonthestorm33    10,951 posts
    ...and the hoop that gave me my last collect - um that would've been Jon Claite in 2006 :-bd

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  • JellJell    1,202 posts
    My favourite hoop is the one who rode my last winner ;))
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  • JellJell    1,202 posts
    Ridersonthestorm33 said:

    Think you mean Chris Parnham there hash.

    My fave and best hoop's - the one that gave me my last collect.

    Just doubling up on jokes. Didn't see this haha
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  • Ridersonthestorm33Ridersonthestorm33    10,951 posts
    Haha and it is true though.

    Also we can cheer home a hoop one race and be against him the next, and vice versa.

    There's a lot of variances in racing - beforehand the hoop is the least of my worries. Afterwards might complain - then forgotten.

    Nothing wrong with having a whinge though...then move on.

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  • razorrazor    205 posts
    hash said:

    Pike

    Harvey

    Noske, Joey & O’Donnell in no particular order for 3rd, 4th & 5th... I doubt there’d be many that disagree with that top 5




    pateman? cris says 14% winners and 28% top 2 this season vs noske who is 11% winners and 18% top 2

    he is top 5 for me and so is chris parnham

    pike
    harvey
    pateman
    azzopardi
    c parnham

    gap to noske and others i rekon
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  • spinkingspinking    4,002 posts
    gap to Noske what are you on razor

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  • DamienWyerDamienWyer    7,995 posts
    razor said:

    hash said:

    Pike

    Harvey

    Noske, Joey & O’Donnell in no particular order for 3rd, 4th & 5th... I doubt there’d be many that disagree with that top 5




    pateman? cris says 14% winners and 28% top 2 this season vs noske who is 11% winners and 18% top 2

    he is top 5 for me and so is chris parnham

    pike
    harvey
    pateman
    azzopardi
    c parnham

    gap to noske and others i rekon
    Can't find room for a female rider ?

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  • razorrazor    205 posts
    spinking said:

    gap to Noske what are you on razor




    add to the conversation spink! who is ur top 5 mate
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  • razorrazor    205 posts


    Can't find room for a female rider ?





    alana sampson? lol none of them are top 5! top 10 yes but not 5
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  • hashhash    7,495 posts
    Pateman yes but lack of rides and issues with weight you can’t have him in your top 5 as a consistent pick but yes 12-18 months ago before Harvey made a dominant comeback Mitch would have been second to Pike before his most recent fall

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  • razorrazor    205 posts
    you put o'donnell in there but cant have pateman!! he hasnt had a ride in a year lol
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  • JellJell    1,202 posts
    edited March 2020
    Interesting stat, Kate Fitzgerald takes top honors for ROI.

    A whopping 230% from 44 rides.
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  • jumjum    3,582 posts
    If I had my pick. And I know I will get shot down here. 

    But I would pick P Harvey at full fitness over W Pike every day of the week.
    Imagine if Harvey hooked up with Peters 15 years ago instead of Willy. 

    So for me its 
    P Harvey
    W Pike
    J Noske
    J Azzopardi
    B Kirby (take his issues away, the boy can ride)

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  • H-BOMBERH-BOMBER    10,567 posts
    Harvey used to ride for Bob when Smith was training them didn't he?

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  • GLAMOURGLAMOUR    879 posts
    W Pike
    P Harvey
    M Pateman(even if weight restricted)
    C Parnham
    J Whiting
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  • jumjum    3,582 posts
    H-BOMBER said:

    Harvey used to ride for Bob when Smith was training them didn't he?

    Harvey won 3 group 1s on Old Comrade, including an Australian Cup
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  • hashhash    7,495 posts
    razor said:

    you put o'donnell in there but cant have pateman!! he hasnt had a ride in a year lol




    Donga will pick up where he left off once he does return
    Mitch hopefully will start to warm up now the Kal season isn’t too far off

    My top 5 is overall from years gone by razor, one good season doesn’t mean you make the cut for mine, I’m just as big a fan of him as the next bloke don’t get me wrong

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  • RodentRodent    7,472 posts
    jum said:

    H-BOMBER said:

    Harvey used to ride for Bob when Smith was training them didn't he?

    Harvey won 3 group 1s on Old Comrade, including an Australian Cup
    Harvey won 4 Group 1s on Old Comrade. 2 x Fruit n Veg and a Railway to go with the Australian Cup.
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  • ManchildManchild    840 posts
    Ponty at his peak  for me, way above pike 

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  • spinkingspinking    4,002 posts
    Seeing you want me to name them Razor
    top bracket=Pike&Harvey
    2nd bracket=C.Parnham J.Noske Havaparty M.Pateman
    3rd bracket= Throw a blanket over odonnell turner pnuckey whiting mcnaught b.parnham s.parnham
    There added to the conversation

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  • hashhash    7,495 posts
    Lucy Warwick is a must in that 3rd bracket if you're putting S.Parnham amongst them jesus

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  • FlandersFlanders    1,411 posts
    At times most jockeys could be ranked in the top 5, depending on form and opportunities. We've seen them all go on a run for a couple of months where they win plenty then they get more good rides and it snowballs from there.
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  • GLAMOURGLAMOUR    879 posts
    hash said:

    Lucy Warwick is a must in that 3rd bracket if you're putting S.Parnham amongst them jesus

    I'd be putting Lucy miles ahead
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  • DamienWyerDamienWyer    7,995 posts
    Lucy, Kyra and Jade all can ride with any of the men and better than most of them. Weight restrictions seldom hamper their preparation for a ride either.

    I really detest the overt sexism of WA Racing.
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  • paraleticparaletic    3,750 posts
    Its one of those things, its in the eye of the beholder. I favour jockeys that i can “catch” over those i cannot “catch”. For me Brad Parnham is well and truly in my top 3, gets me more winners on the punt than anyone.

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  • FlandersFlanders    1,411 posts
    It is a very subjective matter. There are a few of the riders and statements above that I disagree with whereas the people talking them up are pretty strong about it... each to their own.
    there may be other reasons for the push though ie. they are their friend/relative/manager/other so it isn't necessarily a black and white discussion. 
    Also, as I have touched on above- The rider you favour now might be out of favour in 6 months... they might be out of form, might have carved one up that cost you a quid, etc etc. There are bandwagon bandits aplenty in every sport!
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