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Winterbottom Stakes Day 2024

West Australian Racing
ChrisChris    5,734 posts
West Australian Racing
I think it goes without saying there are a few lucky ownership groups who have scored a runner in a Group 1 that probably wouldn't have dreamed they'd be starting.
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  • thefalconthefalcon    20,495 posts
    just had a look...half of them cluttering up the field. should not have accepted. what was the cost to nominate and accept?
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  • FlandersFlanders    1,412 posts
    Agree 110% with you both... there should be some level of decency in the quality of the field.
    Always get hard luck stories in this race and it's usually caused by a runner that shouldn't be there
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  • DamienWyerDamienWyer    7,996 posts
    Only brings forward the chance of the race being downgraded
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  • Bomber1Bomber1    33 posts
    Which one's or you don't want to say.

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  • psychopsycho    891 posts
    Bomber1 said:

    Which one's or you don't want to say.

    You could exclude all horses with a BM of under 100 ? But that is going to leave you with 8 runners and that is no good for betting, and I dont support blanket rules like that anyway. I like to see some of the better Group 1s with only the best horses but if the owners pay up to run their horses which are we going to delete if the rules are not in place to eliminate them ?
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  • ChrisChris    5,734 posts
    Not sure Elite Street would've got a run under those circumstances so I agree with no blanketing.

    Crippalenko was $41 in a 66+ at Kalgoorlie (Ronnie Sayers to be fair) 4 starts ago. I assume the owners at that time would've been thinking Country Championship at that point, rather than a Winterbottom.

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  • psychopsycho    891 posts
    Chris said:

    Not sure Elite Street would've got a run under those circumstances so I agree with no blanketing.


    Crippalenko was $41 in a 66+ at Kalgoorlie (Ronnie Sayers to be fair) 4 starts ago. I assume the owners at that time would've been thinking Country Championship at that point, rather than a Winterbottom.
    Yeah agree like SHAMUS AWARD in a COX PLATE and TALENT SHOW in a Perth Cup also
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  • Bomber1Bomber1    33 posts
    I can see what your saying,I suppose the thrill of having a group 1 runner is hard to pass up and you never know I think a horse like Crippalenko is an up and comer and maybe he has come on a bit since his last run.
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  • ChrisChris    5,734 posts
    What odds you want Bomber?
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  • psychopsycho    891 posts
    Chris said:

    What odds you want Bomber?

    It's a 1000m horse in restricted grade, would be a minor miracle winning this, nah a MAJOR miracle

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  • H-BOMBERH-BOMBER    10,567 posts
    Rocking Rupert for me at $61. Big blow out.
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  • ChrisChris    5,734 posts
    You'll need a big blow out after doing your ass on that  :))

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  • Buddy123Buddy123    262 posts
    Well looking at the speed map I reckon it’s on for young n old… Western empire should get the sit of jumps ok.. but you never know..
    Hadabeclorka comes to mind but we will see..
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  • SLIPPERGOLDENSLIPPERGOLDEN    8,460 posts
    R2 Sowar each way
    R3 Divine Pair each way
    R4 Secret Attire each way
    R5 Cold Shizzle each way
    R6 Earthstorm an each way special
    R7 Rusty Dreams each way and Ghobella for the novelties
    R8 Almighty Class each way
    R9 Chollima has been scratched recently. Issues? If not then a best bet. Live To Tell and Count The Sessions good chances at odds


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  • ChrisChris    5,734 posts
    War Matters the bank builder

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  • VoodooVoodoo    1,377 posts
    Maharba to blow them away......

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  • udontknowudontknow    570 posts
    OVERPASS makes it 4 from 4

    GALAXY AFFAIR leads and wins at odds for Jordy Childs

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  • thefalconthefalcon    20,495 posts
    i'll include saloon bar and rockin' rupert in my novelties.....not keen on overpass today.
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  • FlandersFlanders    1,412 posts
    I like the way Rope Them In won last start with blinkers on first time. If they ride him coldish I reckon he's a good each-way chance

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  • udontknowudontknow    570 posts
    Flanders said:

    I like the way Rope Them In won last start with blinkers on first time. If they ride him coldish I reckon he's a good each-way chance




    If Rope Them In wins I’ll never look at the races again!
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  • Yankee63Yankee63    41 posts
    Same as last week Pike for 3 minimum

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  • DesikinsDesikins    5 posts
    Good morning Guys. Recently joined the Forum after a hiatus from betting on and attending WA racing events due to health issues. Like your discussions and in depth knowledge of the racing scene in WA. Use Blackbook system but still in its infancy as I start collecting data and watching races.
    Central Force in first - place chance.
    R2 Royal Toronado to beat Fly With Caution. On the back up.
    R3 Comic Hero win Regal Statue and Barney’s World in exotics.
    R5 Going for Generosity to beat Jokers Grin in this one.
    R6 Mai Aloha didn’t get a run against top 3. They would be all in my first leg of Quaddie incl 10.
    R7 Baby Paris hard to beat. Like The Boss Lady and Amber Glide included in exotics.
    R8 Have Western Empire in BB but to be honest can’t get a gauge on the Eastern States horses other than Overpass looks likely despite draw. Maharba looks good ew. Lady Laguna with JMac in board.
    R9 Tough race. Wubin Gold. Yarralea. Miss Sky High. A few others could surprise.
    Good luck to everyone.

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  • udontknowudontknow    570 posts
    Well Pike just cost Central Force the race. He should be getting a fine for that!!
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  • FlandersFlanders    1,412 posts
    udontknow said:

    Well Pike just cost Central Force the race. He should be getting a fine for that!!


    Watch the head-on footage. Looks like it was Chris Parnham on the Caseys horse. A 10 day holiday beckons

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  • ArapahoArapaho    395 posts
    H-BOMBER said:

    Rocking Rupert for me at $61. Big blow out.

    Agree Bomber
    think it will run a huge race, definitely worth something at the price also,
    Citino in the last, drawn bad,but good value,improved out of sight last campaign and couple of trials have been good,worth following.  

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  • RodentRodent    7,472 posts
    Norich 6yo having its 49th start grows a leg to win in 1:08.84 into a headwind carrying 57.5kg. WTF  @-)

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  • meatpiemeatpie    606 posts
    Rodent said:

    Norich 6yo having its 49th start grows a leg to win in 1:08.84 into a headwind carrying 57.5kg. WTF  @-)

    A joke, that track is closer to a Fast 2 than a Good 4, but lets keep bullsh!tting. Who honestly believes this rubbish.

    the first 2 races were lightning fast for that grade.

    Seriously!

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  • thefalconthefalcon    20,495 posts
    how am i going..had 4 bets..one down the drain then sowar and antique miss...2nds, used words i thought i'd forgotten.
    one left alive....yarralea.

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  • SLIPPERGOLDENSLIPPERGOLDEN    8,460 posts
    Good to see Desikins have a go first up on the selections front.

    In the last still keen on Chollima with Live To Tell the saver and for the quinella
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  • thefalconthefalcon    20,495 posts
    "chollima" sounds like a type of pox...
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